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        10-04-2012, 09:25 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    Yeah.... I guess I'm wondering about the point of the thread. The OP asked people's opinion, it's been given, but it sounds like the OP has already made up his mind and plans on getting the horse. So why not post a thread after the purchase and say, "Look at this horse I got I'm an awesome trainer so I can turn him around and sell him for profit in today's crappy horse market."
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        10-04-2012, 09:25 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    It sounds like you've already decided on this guy, so why bother asking for opinions?
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        10-04-2012, 04:28 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    When I started this thread, I was still on the fence about it. Since then, I'm thinking more of doing it, if I ever hear from the gal selling him.

    Yes I said she was a friend. We met a while ago but we don't know each other well. I believe she is the dressage trainer but I don't think she knows how to deal with the bucking problem. She is selling the horse for a client, who doesn't want the horse anymore.

    Nikelodeon79, I'm not trying to say I'm an awesome trainer. I know I'm a decent one but how am I to improve without taking on new challenges? My thought was to increase my experience and give him a better chance to having a useful life. Maybe I will make a new thread of him in the spring.
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        10-04-2012, 05:23 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Confusing...Sounds like he was a ranch horse? Probably QH? Then went for 6 months of dressage training-Dressage horses are usually tall,leggy, springy & the opposite of stock-working ranch horses. This horse doesn't look tall or springy, but he is nice looking. So the "facts" are just confusing-to me.

    But, if you get him cheap, work him for a few months & can make a profit on him-why not? Some horses really benefit from lots of wet saddle blankets.
         
        10-04-2012, 06:46 PM
      #25
    Foal
    I would consider why he is bucking. . He is 9, has been trail ridden, and has had 6 months of professional dressage training. Why all of a sudden is he bucking off 3 people? I would really look into why, if it relates to pain and from where. I would go look at him and ride him and really go over him with a fine tooth comb. IMO he seems priced high. I looked his father up on allbreedpedigree.com and didn't see any accomplishments, info, or pics about his dad. But I am just getting into the QH pedigrees. So what do I know.
         
        10-04-2012, 08:11 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Well I finally talked to the seller. I didn't get any more info but set up a time to go look at him on Monday. The reason she hadn't called back was she had to confirm with the owner that that deal was ok to do.

    So I guess wait until Monday.
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        10-04-2012, 08:36 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Not sure if anyone looked at his bloodlines.... he is most likely going to want to buck. He is mostly cowhorse, running horse bred. He is a what I call a "big circle" horse. He will be a dandy ranch horse that pounds rocks to gather cattle. He probably will keep bucking until he gets a consistant job.

    If you are looking for something to ride hard, he will be great. But don't expect to turn this horse out for a few weeks and hop back on with no problems. You already have 7 horses...I would pass, given the price, breeding and maybe your situation with that many horses that need rode. If you're day working and need a go getter...this would be the guy.
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        10-04-2012, 08:47 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Not in a million years because there are far too many well bred, well trained, and well mannered horses not mention much better conformed available that I wouldn't bother with a seller who over prices a horse by that much. I understand wanting to take in a challenge but there are horse's that you could buy that are already trained for a lot less with better pedigree why bother with this one? IMO if you were going to 'turn a horse' for profit why not start out with a lower price investment since you're going to have to feed and care for it while you re-train it anyways. I find it hard to believe even after your sort out his bucking problem and training that you'll make any profit when you factor in his care and maintenance fee's. It just doesn't seem fiscally feasible to overcome the money and time (which is money). Maybe you're a **** good trainer and he'll go straight to the top or be like that movie seabiscuit and he's just a diamond in the rough and only you can see it. IDK either way Good luck to you.
         
        10-06-2012, 09:00 PM
      #29
    Showing
    Have you thought about what happens to the day job if this horse unloads you in a bad way? If the bucking has been more recent I'd be wondering about a hoof issue, one of those cases whereby he doesn't seem sore until asked to lope carrying a rider.
         
        10-09-2012, 03:58 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
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    Well we did decide to get him. Also got more info on him. Turns out his issues stemmed from being buddy sour. It was the owners daughter that got thrown off back in June. We came to the conclusion that he was throwing a fit being taken away from the other horse. So it wasn't from pain or spooking. Not all the details were clear because the daughter wasn't there.

    They wanted to sell him because they just didn't have enough time to ride him often enough and not because of the bucking. You could tell that she, the owner, was hesitant of letting him go.

    As for the dressage training, the owner wanted to learn how. They felt that even though he wouldn't he wouldn't perform for shows, the training wouldn't hurt for him to learn.

    I didn't ride him yet but hope to this weekend, weather permitting. Just going to let him settle for the week and start getting introduced to the herd. His ground manners are really good and he seems like a calm horse.
         

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