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        01-21-2014, 03:58 PM
      #31
    Super Moderator
    Thanks for getting back
    I have had some young horses that were real saints and better than an older horse that's been spoilt and set in their (bad) ways - but it depends on the horses temperament and how well trained its been, a 5 year old could have had 2 years of really good training and be great so I wouldn't overlook anything like that
    A 14.2 to 15.2 would be a good height for you I would think - easier to get on and less intimidating for a new horse owner to handle
    I love TB's and they can be wonderful horses but be careful what to take on as a novice owner/rider because they can come with a lot of baggage from past experiences that haven't always been good
         
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        01-21-2014, 04:15 PM
      #32
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    A 14.2 to 15.2 would be a good height for you I would think - easier to get on and less intimidating for a new horse owner to handle
    here's a pic of me on my leased pony from last year. She was in the 14h range.. once I got on bigger guys I realized how small she was and how my feet came in when I wanted to make good contact w/ my lower leg (particularly when I really started getting my heel down.. this pic is just hanging out on the sidelines :). So hoping for something slightly bigger.

         
        01-21-2014, 04:50 PM
      #33
    Showing
    You could likely get by with something her height again, but you'd probably want something that was broader with a bigger barrel. Big barrels will take up a lot of leg. That's why all those big tall cowboys can get along so well on those short stocky quarter horses....big barrels.

    I'm glad you decided to keep looking. She looked like a sweet horse, but she needed a lot of work and training that would have been difficult/expensive for you, especially for your first horse.

    You can get as big a horse as you wish, just make sure that their size isn't enough to intimidate you. I know a lot of people that can't ride anything taller than the 15 hand range because they are intimidated either by trying to handle the horse on the ground or because their head is so far up in the air once they are mounted. Feels like a long way to fall, you know?
         
        01-22-2014, 10:04 AM
      #34
    Super Moderator
    I've ridden 14.2's that were narrow and lightweight and felt just as you did and then got on one that was broader and bigger boned and felt totally different.
    If you have a specific competitive thing in mind then that might affect the height you look for but generally speaking a good 15.2 will take you anywhere you want to go - though if it was me and the perfect horse turned up and it was 17 hands I would buy it.
         
        01-23-2014, 02:52 PM
      #35
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    Wow, I guess it's just the difference in disciplines, but for $7k, I'd expect something that was literally a schoolmaster at it's chosen discipline. Maybe not talented enough for the upper levels, but dang sure good enough to ribbon consistently at lower levels without having to fight through the whole course.
    One of my intermediate riders is shopping for a horse with a budget of $10-15k and I am having a really tough time finding something that isn't lame, too green, or a hot mess. And i'm talking something that will competed on just a local level, can be a little green, and doesn't need to be a deadhead. I actually had a trainer laugh in my face and tell me if I could find that in my budget to let him know. I am in a largely western area too but big enough English presence that horses are not cheap. Maybe I need to come shop in your area smrobs!
         
        01-23-2014, 06:01 PM
      #36
    Super Moderator
    People are putting big price tags on horses but that's not the same as getting that sort of money for them.
    Sometimes you have to be cheeky enough to offer what you think is right for your pocket and walk away if they say no. If they need to sell to get money back in the bank they'll often come back to you a few weeks later
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        01-23-2014, 06:57 PM
      #37
    Showing
    A tactic that has often worked well for me is I will offer how much I am willing to pay then, before they get a chance to respond, I tell them the offer is good for ?? Many days. (usually 30). Often times I've gotten a call within 7 days that my offer has been accepted.
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        01-24-2014, 04:46 AM
      #38
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gossalyn    

    Also I've been told to not bother with horses under 5-6 as they will probably be too much horse for me? Younger, less trained, more unpredictable? (in general?)
    Not necessarily, if the horse has been started properly there is no difference between a 5 year old and a ten year old (mind set wise. Experience wise, of course, but a ten year old can be just as wild as a five year old if it wasn't started properly).

    Wow, a broken hip! Hmmm, sounds like she would have problems collecting up anyways. (even though it was noticeable-lack of frame- in the videos).

    Glad you have decided to keep an eye out, have you considered buying non-local and trailering in? If you find a lower cost horse it might be more cost efficient to go that route.
         
        01-24-2014, 01:20 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    I would consider non-local.. but would be a process I'd probably only go through for the perfect horse (assuming more than 2 hours away). I would just want to see a whole bunch of video and then I would actually make a trip there to ride before purchasing. It's just too big of a purchase (even if it was a free horse! :). I'd really hate to trailer a horse only to realize it was a mistake.

    I'm visiting family in Florida in Feb and my niece (6) likes horses / to ride so we're all going riding. The ranch my mom selected has rescues and adoptions so I jokingly said I would check out the horses while I'm there. :) of course I probably am not joking at all. :)

    I also might try Auction Horse Rescue, I've been talking to the girl who fosters a few of their horses and some of them seem like possibilities. My friend got her horse from there. I'll post here when I zero in on something.. I love all your input, good and bad it's always great to consider it.

    There's also a chance I may just end up with a long-term half lease. I'm starting w/ a new trainer Saturday and I want to see what they have going on. The half leases at my last barn were very structured but one that has more freedom for scheduling, etc. where I feel more like the co-owner (second, of course, to the owner) could work.. I just want a horse that I feel responsible for and who doesn't get ridden like the village bicycle.. Who I can go visit and ride mostly when I want (one other person's schedule would probably not be a big deal particularly if we typically came at different hours). I also might occasionally want to trailer it for trail rides off premises w/ some other horse owners. Things like that. And whose lease is not bundled w/ lessons... I prefer to lease the horse from the owner, and pay the trainer for lessons on that horse when I take them. And if I want to take a dressage lesson from another trainer, so be it.

    Anyway, it really all came down to freedom & ultimately responsibility which is why I started thinking maybe I should be the owner. :)
         
        01-28-2014, 04:33 AM
      #40
    Foal
    Gossalyn - leasing is a good option for you. I long termed leased my horse, 5 years, before buying. The owner just wasn't ready to sell and it was the best of both worlds. The reason why I bought was because I knew all vices, I didn't want my mare ending up in the wrong hands, and of course I'm partial to her. And when you ride more horses you'll find out what you really like and don't like, which will make finding the right horse much more easy for you. AHR actually gets a lot of the horses from an auction about 20 min away from my house.
         

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