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        02-20-2014, 06:45 PM
      #111
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zexious    
    ^Snowman.

    I know that's a one in a million example... but still. XD
    I think you are right, considering Snowman was bought 58 years ago.
         
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        02-20-2014, 08:42 PM
      #112
    Super Moderator
    There are hundreds and more really pretty OTTB's out there that can move really well and have the ability to jump that could very quickly be trained to the standard this little horse is currently at
    I'd be interested to know how much the sellers paid for him
         
        02-20-2014, 11:54 PM
      #113
    Showing
    I do have to agree with Allie (JDI). Even as a western rider, I can see a lot of potential in that horse....however, where I get really sticky is that they are asking 30k for a horse that won't actually be worth 30k until he's had a lot more training.

    Personally, I wouldn't pay anywhere close to that much for him...but he's not my kind of horse and he's not suited to my discipline.
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        02-21-2014, 12:04 AM
      #114
    Super Moderator
    If he was a 4 year old I would be saying yes he has lots of potential but at 6 years you expect a horse to have moved on from showing potential to be actually doing something - unless there's some reason why he isn't
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        02-21-2014, 12:07 AM
      #115
    Showing
    My guess would be lack of training because he just appears very green to me, not like a horse that isn't physically/mentally capable.

    But, of course, I've not actually handled the horse so it's purely speculation .
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        02-21-2014, 12:13 AM
      #116
    Super Moderator
    That's whats not seeming right - why he's so green considering the yard he's on and that they've had him two and half years
         
        02-21-2014, 08:32 AM
      #117
    Green Broke
    For the money, I really do like Clueso.
         
        02-21-2014, 11:01 AM
      #118
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    That's whats not seeming right - why he's so green considering the yard he's on and that they've had him two and half years
    You do not know if he has had 2.5 years of training, only that they have had him for that time. Generally, OTTBs have a let down period after being on the track. I've seen some that need no time, but some that need 3-6-12 months after the track. I have no idea if that is the case here.
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        02-21-2014, 11:20 AM
      #119
    Weanling
    That's what I was thinking, let down and possibly an injury off the track. I'd vet him thoroughly because there's got to be some reason the horse looks like he's only been in training a few months. He does not look lame or anything. So it may be a personal reason on the part of the owner/trainer, or really who knows. But even if they gave him a full 12 month let down, there's still 18 months he should have been in training, and unless he came off the track a complete wreck mentally/training wise, he really ought to look better on the flat IMO. It also seems like he has only recently started jumping, so who knows what is going on there.

    I might also add up the cost of the training and showing he needs, and take that off his price to make an offer. Once he has the training and some ribbons, he might be worth the asking price.
         
        02-21-2014, 02:04 PM
      #120
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hngry4fame    
    Hello!

    I'm hoping to get some help and feedback on a horse than I'm leaning towards purchasing.

    I am an intermediate rider schooling currently at 3'. I've been riding since I was a child but took about 10 years off for college and career. I've been back at it for about a year and a half now. I haven't shown as an adult but want to start once I'm ready and find the right partner! I'm doing basic dressage and work over fences in my lessons. I'd like to eventually do both hunter and jumper classes.

    I've been contemplating moving to a different trainer (thus I've gone out horse shopping on my own with input from horse friends through pictures and videos.) But this guy I'm checking out is a big purchase and I'd like as much input as I could get.

    The horse is 16.1h 6 yr old gray TB. He raced twice and the owners said he wanted to look at butterflies instead of run fast and that's when she bought him. She has had him for two and half years and done all of his training. His sale ad says, "He is a promising young sport horse with exemplary movement and textbook form over fences. He excels in his work and is eager to perform everyday. No vices. No spook, bolt, rear, buck. This horse will finish to be a top contender in the equitation ring, hunter ring, derby ring or jumper ring. Super fancy enough for the professional and easy enough for the adult/childrens ring."





    I have ridden him once and he was perfect. He's a really pretty mover, listened really well, engaged, good attitude, etc. I'm a little concerned that he's behind the bit too often, though. We rode in a rubber bit, which I thought was pretty unconventional. We jumped about 3' and he was pretty skittish with the jumps. He jumps about 10 feet high over each jump no matter how high it is. I'm hoping he just needs more miles over fences? The owner had me show him the jumps before we went over. He did go over each time but only got comfortable after we'd been over it a few times. I'm not at all concerned that he needs more education, I'm concerned that he's priced in the $30k's and still needs work over fences. Is this typical for nicer horses? He's within my budget but the other horses I have looked at in that price range were more comfortable over fences.

    The owners are the nicest people and I would be doing a lease to purchase at their barn. There is one large thing that concerns me though - the horse had a fractured splint bone and had surgery to remove it about a year ago. The owner has offered that I talk to her vet. The vet said it was textbook and that the horse should have no problems going forward.

    I REALLY appreciate any advice you guys can give! Thank you!

    This still kind of bothers me personally. Did they ever state how he fractured it? What if a year later he fractures it again or a different one?
    I still think he is priced way to high for a horse that needs more work.
         

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