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Possible sale of unhandled mare and foal

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Do you think anyone would be interested in a three year old mare with her foal on the side that has never been handled?

She is grade as of now, but sending the papers in for her registration tomorrow.

She is QH, but her foal will be Solid Paint Bred, and registered. Was an unplanned baby, by mama's paternal half brother.

She was a bit disrespectful (would swing her but around but not kick) as a two year old, but Thorn has calmed her considerably. She has never been touched except a LITTLE on the face. Thorn, her foal, will walk right up to the fourwheeler every once in a while to be pet. He is two weeks old at the moment, but they won't be sold until he is old enough to wean.

She is red dun, he is Grulla, possibly Smokey grulla.

They are gorgeous, but I've got too many and way too much on my plate!

Do you all think there would be any interest in them? And if so, how much should I put them at? I don't know the knowledge or time to work with her.
 

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You would be lucky to find a buyer for these two who wasn't going to turn them into horsemeat. Seriously, they are going to be a ton of skilled, high-risk work for anyone who takes them on, and the payoff would be a possible riding horse probably worth less than the price of her training, and a colt which needs years of work to get any investment out.
 
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I was afraid of that. Would it be more feasible to send her to my trainer (he charges $375/mo and works wonders!) for 90 days and ask what I've put into her? I'm not as concerned with how much money she'd bring as what situation she ends up in down the road. Even more so with Thorn.

That would mean I'd have AROUND $1475 in her after training and registration. I could keep Thorn until he's ready to be put under Saddle. It's not a situation where I HAVE to get rid of them, I just want someone else to be able to enjoy them. Someone who has time for them. Currently, I've got a full time job where overtime is almost required (my family owns a successful handmade knife company) and two horses (two now geldings, one is the sire of Thorn) at the trainers, that I will be keeping. Two yearlings that aren't Halter broke, one is a little wild.

So I've got 13 horses, currently. I had two before I inherited these, now I've got his broodmares and Briar. The two geldings, two babies from last year and two babies from this year.
 
#7 ·
I mean do you think I'd be able to get $1475 out of her at least? And what if I just sent her for 30 or 60 days to gentle her and teach her to respect people, and then let them start her how they want? I have no experience selling horses and I've only ever bought one, and she was a rescue. So I'm completely clueless here
 
#9 ·
I would geld any males. Since the mare hasn't been handled, I'd suggest putting her in foal to a top name stallion and sell her before her current one is weaned, and sell her as a 3 in 1 with her foal at side, plus one in the oven. You already have $1400, close to 1500 in her and she would sell as a non handled broodmare prospect for about $200-300. If you pay to start her undersaddle, her pedigree is what the buyer would be basing his price on, her under saddle status without any honors from the show ring. Unless you keep her, ride her and show her, she will be the same.
 
#10 ·
All I have in her right now is $350. So if I was to breed her to a top stud, how would I go about doing that? Vet wouldnt be able to handle her for AI, and I'm not even sure my vet does that. How much would I be able to get out of an unhandled 3 in 1 broodmare? Should I have her gentled down, then go for it? So 30 or 60 days for that.

It would be $750+$350+$1500 give or take. Would a tame 3 in 1 broodmare be worth +\- $2900?
 
#12 ·
If she was at least able to be touched, haltered, and doesn't try to tear off with you at the end of the lead rope, someone might be interested. Another thing you could do is call up trainer's in the area, market her as a 'trainer's special'. Someone might be interested.

Otherwise, I agree that the best thing to do would be to breed her to a good stallion. I imagine she would at least need to be gentled for that (as described above: touch, halter, lead). If it was live cover, they would need to be able to handle her and put hobbles on for an in-hand breeding. I don't know a ton about breeding horses, but I'm pretty sure that no one is going to risk their top stallion by turning him out to breed with an unknown mare and risk his injury.

I think as far as saddle training goes, it would be money down the drain. I see horses that can be saddled, ridden, and rode out, grade, that sell for 900-1200.
 
#13 ·
So. I've talked to my mom and she doesn't want me to sell her... she said just send her to my trainer and get her gentled and then leave her on the farm. I'm not sure what to do. I mean, really, she's perfectly fine here on the farm. No more studs in with the mares so she won't have any more babies... we've got 360 acres that the horses run on with the cows, so I've got room for her. I don't really see the point of spending $725+ for her to just be a 3 year old pasture ornament.
 
#14 ·
Unfortunately, I see this too often. I go to a sale, and a mare who is bred really well but not been used for anything and is now 9 or 10 years old goes through, being led (not going to talk about the low end sales where they sell by the lb) and they sell for $200-300 IF they are really cute and have big names in the pedigree up close. As often as not, they 'no sale' either because no one even bids or because no one is interested in a barely handled 9 or 10 year old mare. Frequently when these horses have to be sold, they go through low end sales, by the pound, because they can't be handled. Then you're talking about less than $100. Get this mare handleable, just because she deserves to have a life and not a dismal end.

Plus what will you do if she colics or gets severely injured? How would a vet treat her? If you can't handle her, then she obviously has never had routine care, vaccinations, de-worming, feet trimmed, etc. Why have a horse if you can't even provide basic care to it?
 
#17 ·
I see it as potential being wasted in a paddock.


Label the advertisement as "3YR OLD PROJECT MARE + foal" for $500 and I'm sure someone would be interested. She is only young!
Don't just sell her to anyone, make sure they know what they're doing.


I'd buy her but I'm in Australia. There ARE people out there that do want a package like her.




Good luck ♥
 
#18 · (Edited)
I would get that foal away from her (or in a position to be easily handled away from her) and get it trained, then sell for decent money.

As for the mare, up to you but you should at least get her to where she can be handled even if you keep her. If you look to sell put get her halter trained (or more if you can) then sell. She's young enough you should be able to get something for her, though it won't break the bank.

And don't punch the #s about what you put into her, she's not a car, you can't say "$1000 of new parts" and expect that to count for anything, especially when the cars not even driveable to begin with :). You can't get her halter trained for $1000 then ask for that + registration fees when you still have a horse that's barely halter trained and has nothing else. Basically you have to get her up to "minimum value" before worrying about extra value, cause right now she doesn't have ANY of the basics.

I wouldn't try to sell together or as a 3 in 1 unless she's top quality as a broodmare and you're selling to a breeder. Most people looking for a training project (or willing to take on a training project) don't want, and don't need, more than one.

You obviously want to get as much as you can for her, esp to try and rule out bad homes but I would be considering her a "free to a good home" type of deal.
 
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