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    08-31-2012, 01:26 AM
want opion on this horse

This is a horse I am considering buying ... alittle about him..i have tried him out once he is a apha horse, 8years old...finished in reining and cow sorting..could do hus on the flat and has good bloodlines, proven show horse...sound and no issues...they are asking 9500, but I got them to come down to 7500 for cash..do you think he is worth it..i posted link to the video of him below

Also I am looking at another horse 4years old and I can get him for 8k..he is the same looks at the horse above but a bay, same height..he is breeders trust and geldings plus unlike the one above...taken to shows but not shown..sound and no issues he is western pleasure/hus horse from pleasure sensation bloodlines...but unlike the horse above not finished.

I just wanted to know what you guys think of the prices and based on descriptions of both and the MARKET, do you think these horses are priced to high or are about right? I know the market is competive but I want other horse people's opinions, other than my trainer..even though my trainer has looked at both.
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    08-31-2012, 01:30 AM
What direction are you looking at going? You have one horse that is a Reiner. And the other is HUS/WP? Those are completely different disciplines. What are YOU looking to do.

I think the sorrel APHA is lovely. I'd definitely take him. He looks like he has a wonderful foundation on him. As long as he passes a PPE, I'd take him home in a heartbeat. Granted, he needs finishing, but he looks like he's almost there!
    08-31-2012, 01:34 AM
I should have mentioned... I ride both reining, western pleasure and hus on the flat horses so I love riding and showing them all so that's why I have two horses from two different disciplines..what I want for sure is a paint which both of these are. :)
    08-31-2012, 08:01 AM
I like the horse in the video.... market is what it has always been. Whatever the buyer is willing to pay :)
    08-31-2012, 08:18 AM
Green Broke
Depends on what the specialized training is worth to you.
Basically in my eyes rideable , safe and knowing basic WTC, left right back commands that's a 2k horse.
Is the specialized training and show ready status worth another 5k to you? Do you have the ability to do that type of training yourself ? It very well could be. But those are the questions only you can answer.
    08-31-2012, 08:55 AM
If you want a reiner, and IF he is truly sound, he would seem to be worth $7500. This horse was sold as a Derby horse 3 yrs ago. I am wondering what happened to his derby career........that would be my big question. Is he sour? Always a possiblity if he was campaigned too much. He sure was much better and + ing his maneuvers 3 yrs ago. If a reiner is what you want, I would personally concentrate on that. It is my opinion that no horse can excel at all the things you want. Mediocre, yes, great-no. I would find out what he is eligible for also, as you may not be a rider who can compete at the level he is at......I know I couldn't. I am not good enough. But-he would be a great teacher.
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    08-31-2012, 12:41 PM
As an answer to both your guys questions...i agree a 2k horse would know the basics maybe 60days under saddle..and I am experienced enough to take it from there...thing is at this point in my life I don't want a horse I have to train a whole lot..but just get on and ride and show..for me the 5k is worth it...that is about what you would pay to finish a horse if I was getting paid for my time.....and I know I could ride the sorrel horse no problem...i have tried him out and loved him..what I did not know and was never mentioned to me is that he was a derby horse...gosh how did you know that??
    08-31-2012, 06:30 PM
Google is your friend..... If you google him he was advertised as that (and it looks like he sold, back in 2009. I believe there is also a video, or at least some pics of him then.

And $5K is nowhere NEAR what it takes to finish a reiner. Figure $800-$1000 (minimum) per month and it takes years to finish one. Then there is the maintenance. I have more than that in training on mine, and he knows the very basic moves and can perform them at an elementary level.
    08-31-2012, 09:11 PM
Hi, I found the video by google..yahoo would not bring it up...i called the trainer that had him in 2009 and I decided I am not going to buy him based off the fact that 3 years ago he sold for 25k and that in total he has had 5 owners since birth...4 of them the last 3 years...sounds kinda fishy they are selling him for sooo much less..not to mention the current owner has had him less than 8months

And yea I understand it would cost more than 5k to train a reiner...what I meant by that was another commentor on here had said something about a 2k horse and was it worth to pay 5k more and yes it is...i mean I could train and finish a horse for 5k myself(which I am not including time costs a trainer in business would charge, but board and facilites and upkeep for me to finish the horse I could do it for 5k, that's what it would add up for vet/board/upkeep bills, not my time and experience to finish the horse) I know alot of good reiners sell easily for 15k and up to 25k-even 50k..i have seen them go for. L considered this horse because for one he was in my area 4hrs away and alot of even decent reiners are not in my area..i knew going to look at him to keep an open mind if he needed work...but obviously with th previous price he was at, at the big trainer in arizona(25k) and the numbers of owners in small time something else is going on here.
    09-01-2012, 07:04 AM
My thought exactly. Not sure why he has been passed around so much. Glad you found it.

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