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        03-20-2013, 01:02 PM
      #11
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    If you are that concerned for money, then you probably are not financially ready to buy a horse. I mean, if you are worrying about the hrose costing 1500 or a few hundred less, then to me this indicates you don't have enough "breathing room" to buy a horse. You shouldnt buy a horse if you are on a knife edge of financial ability to pay. If I were you, I'd continue leasing for a few years until you have more money saved.
         
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        03-20-2013, 01:05 PM
      #12
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    If you are that concerned for money, then you probably are not financially ready to buy a horse. I mean, if you are worrying about the hrose costing 1500 or a few hundred less, then to me this indicates you don't have enough "breathing room" to buy a horse. You shouldnt buy a horse if you are on a knife edge of financial ability to pay. If I were you, I'd continue leasing for a few years until you have more money saved.
    This. $1500 isn't much for a trained, sane horse. IMO you should also have a thousand at least banked to deal with emergency situations.
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        03-20-2013, 01:05 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Everyone has good points here!
    I also wanted to point out that any horse at any age could have health problems in the blink of any eye! You can spend whatever amount of money and something could happen and you have no horse.
    Something to think about.
         
        03-20-2013, 01:10 PM
      #14
    Showing
    I am going to suggest you short term lease as many horses as you can. You will gain awesome experience by doing this. Even a cranky bull-headed horse has a lot to teach. Altho I wanted my own horse desperately, in hindsight it was the variety of horses I rode that taught me so much. Despite all the claims that 17 isn't old, in a few years it could be entering the most expensive stage of it's life. It's an unknown. At 20 it is unfair to ask the same of the horse as at 10. Often the head is willing but the body is having a harder time. I watched two horses barrel race, first 18yr old, then the 5 yr old. It took the 18 yr old longer, at least 3x longer, for it's respirations to return to resting rate. Those are things we can't change and have to be mindful off. When my big gelding turned 18 he could no longer charge up a long hill like he could at 17. We made it 3/4 of the way and had to stop. I always let him make the decision but I realized I'd have to be more mindful of his capabilities.
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        03-20-2013, 01:21 PM
      #15
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    I also think that you shouldn't be expecting this friend who owns Matt to give you a 'discount' for him because you are his friend. She has probably put a lot of money into him, even as a healthy horse, and she has the right to want some of it back to either purchase another horse or put it towards another thing she's wanting/needing. I just bought my first horse back in September from my BO and very good friend, and although I had done ALL of her training I still had to pay the price that this woman would have sold her for to an average customer. (She started out as an unhandled, agressive miniature horse filly At the time of me buying her she was green broke to drive, had all of her ground work done, etc)

    As a teenager in similar shoes as you, I have to tell you that everyone is right. I'm seventeen at the moment and I hold a part time job (by part time though, I mean actually part time, as in 20 hours a week) and I have many babysitting/dogsitting clients all over our town. Even so, I struggle to provide everything that my mare needs. I get discounted board for my mare due to her size (she shares a pen/run in with another mini mare) and the fact that I feed for the BO in the evenings, but I'm still paying $125 mothly and consider myself to be EXTREMELY lucky. Then add her farrier care at $45 every 4-5 weeks, about $60 for a bag of feed and 10 or so bales of alfalfa/timothy and Jiggs costal hay monthly, I'm easily paying $230-250 per month for her upkeep, and she's only a 34" MINIATURE horse! Imagine the price of feeding a horse four times her size ;). Don't forget vaccinations twice a year, teeth floating once or twice a year, deworming/fecals, etc. Since September I've already spent about $1,400 on her in normal bills, plus a $250 bill for an unexpected vet call when she developed an allergic reaction to a bee sting last month and actually fainted from lack of oxygen (scariest thing ever!) add to that the fact that she's needing a chiropractor visit for her stiff back and you have one expensive miniature horse. My job is BARELY covering the cost of all of that and half of my car insurance right now. If I were to get my hours cut back or be laid off/fired, I'd be in 'deep doo-doo.'

    I'll also note that I'm also helping with the costs of our foster filly at the farm right now, and she's only 16 months old, but she's cost us FAR more in vet bills than even our 28 year old or 49 year old mares did on their 'death beds', needing high end feed, floating every 3 months, and artheritis medication. Age is not a huge factor as long as he's been well cared for most of his life.
         
        03-20-2013, 01:21 PM
      #16
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    I am going to suggest you short term lease as many horses as you can. You will gain awesome experience by doing this. Even a cranky bull-headed horse has a lot to teach. Altho I wanted my own horse desperately, in hindsight it was the variety of horses I rode that taught me so much. Despite all the claims that 17 isn't old, in a few years it could be entering the most expensive stage of it's life. It's an unknown. At 20 it is unfair to ask the same of the horse as at 10. Often the head is willing but the body is having a harder time. I watched two horses barrel race, first 18yr old, then the 5 yr old. It took the 18 yr old longer, at least 3x longer, for it's respirations to return to resting rate. Those are things we can't change and have to be mindful off. When my big gelding turned 18 he could no longer charge up a long hill like he could at 17. We made it 3/4 of the way and had to stop. I always let him make the decision but I realized I'd have to be more mindful of his capabilities.
    Need to jump in here as I feel this is directed at me.

    My mare in terms of physical ability has no problem with her resp rates coming back down. She recovers just as quickly as the 5 year old that trains with us. Her heart rate comes back down just as easy and she has had a complete go over by the vet and chiro and both said there is no concern. Mind you she is a low mileage 20. But still she has no problems keeping up with the young guns.

    Now at 20 I am not asking her to go out and pound around a prelim event. She will probably hang at pre-training level.

    Its one thing asking an older horse to do lower level stuff, its another asking one to go full out at the higher levels when they are older.
         
        03-21-2013, 08:23 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Thank you all for your replies! I really appreciate all of the concerns you have brought up. I will say that these responses aren't exactly what I was looking for...I'm well aware of the expense of a horse. I know it isn't just the initial costs, it's all the upkeep. I've tried my best to calculate every little cost that there might be AND have kept in mind emergency situations. And none of you know how much I make. I feel like because I'm only 17 you've assumed I'm ignorant, or "my reality's skewed."

    My question was should I go for Matt or invest in another horse. That's really all I needed to know. I wasn't looking for reading novels of lectures.
         
        03-21-2013, 08:59 AM
      #18
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    Thank you all for your replies! I really appreciate all of the concerns you have brought up. I will say that these responses aren't exactly what I was looking for...I'm well aware of the expense of a horse. I know it isn't just the initial costs, it's all the upkeep. I've tried my best to calculate every little cost that there might be AND have kept in mind emergency situations. And none of you know how much I make. I feel like because I'm only 17 you've assumed I'm ignorant, or "my reality's skewed."

    My question was should I go for Matt or invest in another horse. That's really all I needed to know. I wasn't looking for reading novels of lectures.
    I answered this one already. I said you should go for Matt. He is still young and has many years ahead of him.
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        03-21-2013, 09:00 AM
      #19
    Showing
    Autumn, you've handled the criticism with dignity and maturity. I just want to applaud that :)
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        03-21-2013, 09:00 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    Thank you! :) It sounds like most of you say I should go for Matt.
         

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