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post #1 of 12 Old 05-13-2012, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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Would you follow up on these ads?

So, I'm thinking about leasing a new horse in the fall, or buying my own. That being said, I've started taking a look at ads and stuff because I want to have a feel of the market when I actually do start getting serious. I found these two that stood out to me, and I would like to know your opinions on them.

Trying to figure out what to throw out and what to think on is harder than I thought. Some ads I can just "no," but others make me think maybe... and only one so far has really stood out to me. How do you know when to contact the poster? Purely a matter of your opinion here, I don't think that there is a hard and fast rule on this. What makes a horse catch your eye?

So background on me, so you know a bit about what I'm looking for.
I am looking for a western pleasure or working western horse (our local show association has a special class for trail and working horses that is defined as: Working Western will be judged the same as Western Pleasure with a more relaxed approach to speed and head carriage - more fitting to a horse used in trail riding or a ranch type setting. Horses should travel in a comfortable relaxed manner on a reasonably loose rein.) I'm fine with just having a really cool working horse, I just want to be competitive in a western class, lol. AQHA or APHA are the two breeds that I would like, but I'll consider just about anything that falls into the general stock type, even grade or non registered. I'm looking for well broke horses that might just need a bit of tuning, with a budget of $2000. Its a tight budget I know, and I'm ok with not finding the right horse, I'll wait until one comes along.

So now that you've endured all that, these are what I've seen and liked so far:
14.3 appy mare Flashy Red Roan Appy Mare
Sweet little 14.3hand mare. Red roan and very eye catching. Has been very well trained english and western. Has jumped up to 2ft and has never hesitated when I have taken her over a jump and I ride western. Would excel in the english show ring. Very fancy w/t/c will collect up and show off for the judges. Very smooth western pleasure lope. Walk right onto a trailer, stand tied to be tacked and have her feet done. ALL my friends have rode this horse she does not get worked up when other horses run off and is very calm and level headed. She has been used as an english lesson horse. She has been trained for barrel racing and poles. Will neck rein and turn on a dime or direct rein and respond to heel commands. Backs, side steps, roll back. Will do it all.
She sounds good, but something just throws me off. I would be asking all sorts of questions and for pictures and videos before I got serious about her. Maybe she just sounds like more of an english horse than western?

16 hh APHA gelding Flashy Apha Red Roan Overo Gelding
Cimmoron is a 9 year old APHA registered red roan overo gelding. He is very quiet in the ring and very easy to handle. He has limited trail experience. He has had some time off for the past years but has been ridden consistantly now for the past 90 days. He has a nic easy walk, trot/jog, canter. He is a little reluctant to canter sometimes due to the fact that he is lazy but will do it. Ties, loads, bathes, stands for farrier, etc.
Videos here: Rodsaheathen (APHA) - Bird Performance HorsesAQHA & APHAMebane, NC
This is the horse that has stood out to me. I just like something about him. I was rather found of his jog, it reminds me of my mare. I'm not really a color person,give me a bay any day, but he certainly is eye catching. Something about him just says try me. I have no idea why. I like his videos, but I do think his canter/lope will need work.
Tell me what you think about him, honestly? If he's a really good prospect, I could act on him now, but he'd have to be great...
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post #2 of 12 Old 05-13-2012, 03:27 PM
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I didn't look into them that much, but I can tell you that neither of them are actually red roans for what it's worth. The mare is a chestnut varnish roan and will continue to lose more red as she gets older. The gelding is sabino, which is causing the roaning look.

Although the gelding appears to fit your criteria more than the mare.
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post #3 of 12 Old 05-13-2012, 09:27 PM Thread Starter
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I'm pattern challenged, so let me know. I'm a solid color horse person, but they say a good horse is never a bad color.
The mare was yeah, a better quality horse than most adds, stood out, but didn't really make a connection. But how much can you go off adds, I guess? If I was seriously looking, I might call, but I'm not, so I'm not.

Something just sparked with the gelding, I don't know. I'd like to hear from a few others about how they think he looks.
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It's not that hard to convert a horse from english to western, especially if she already knows how to ride on a loose rein and neck rein.
I would choose the Appy, personally. She sounds like a good horse and seemingly has more experience than the other not only in english but western disciples as well.
Considering they are the same price, you are getting WAY much more with the Appy.

As for the gelding, he's a nice solid looking guy but i dont like how they say he doesn't like to lope because he is lazy. In my experience those horses are a no, no. A horse should do what it is asked to when it is asked and be willing. Those are the best ones.
I am currently working with a friend's gelding to get him over some serious attitude & bucking issues and he was sold to them as a beginner's horse who "didnt like to go fast".

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I'm not too concerned about switching a horse discipline wise, as that I'm just wary of the movements maybe not being quite right. I'd have to see her moving- is she mostly English because she has knee action, a choppy gait, what's going on, you know? I think my other main concern with the mare is her height. I have a 14.1 mare now, and I really wish she was taller, or at least wider. She's so narrow I have issues feeling her sides under me. But another horse at the barn is 14.2, and when his owner let me hop on him, he felt much better. This girl is 14.3, so she's a bit taller than my pony, and there's no telling how wide she is, so its really a case of having to ride her. All in all, it seems that this would be a case of being a horse that I would have to contact the owner and get some videos, and then go try her if I liked her.

Yeah the being lazy concerned me with the gelding. What happens when you push him, you know? He does seem like he would be a bit less finished than I want. My pony was green when I started riding her in September, and she's come such a long way, and I've been ok with her, we've been a good fit for each other, but as I have started a full time job, I jsut don't have all the time she needs to be a great horse. I don't want to get right back into this spot again, you know? If I where really looking at him, I guess that I would have to ask lots of questions and once again, try him myself.

So I guess that in both of these cases, my answer to my own question would be yes, I would try to follow up on both of these ads. By all means, keep adding in your own thoughts and advise.
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I like the gelding.. though his "western" trot to lope he had to be chased into it and it was more of a canter than a lope. He seemed to lope under the english saddle though as it was quiet/ relaxed and flat lol!

But yeah I'd go take a look at him.

As for the mare, she sounds like an all arounder. I'd try her out too, take videos of the rides, pictures, and get back to us.

Both pretty nice potentials.

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I think the mare sounds like a much better fit for your goals. She is cute, has a better background and seems to be better trained from the description.

Personally I can't stand a lazy horse, it's a pet peeve.

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The horse is either lazy or sore. I don't care for the hindquarters on the last horse. His hocks and cannon bones should line up with his hip and he's way behind.
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post #9 of 12 Old 05-17-2012, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the opinions! I'm going to send both of them my instructor, and see what she thinks of them.

Edit, actually I'm not, because somebody already bought the gelding...
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It says the geldings sold :( I loved him!
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