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    04-28-2012, 10:21 AM
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Trained
Hunt seat Equitation-collegiate team question

Ok-I have a question. It has been years since I have ridden H/J competitively or even had lessons. My niece, who shows Morgans very competitively, saddleseat, has been accepted to a college with an Eq. Team next fall. I was talking to her the other day, and her mom tells me she doesn't try out, as most would, that she is considered a "ringer" as she has so much show experience, but never hunt seat. THey have told her (per her mom, who is a horse person also) that the biggest difference will be that she will use her leg more, and they way she explained it was every stride, more like I would consider Dressage.

Has it changed from what I remember? I thought your legs were supposed to be quiet? Good news is that finally someone in my family will ride a style I am more familiar with......
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    04-28-2012, 11:21 AM
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Wow, frank, I don't know. Kinda hard to make a guess with that explanatioin, but I do know that riding saddleseat, your leg is carried flexed away from the horse's side.

In hunter seat eq, you lower leg is supposed to be wrapped around the horse's barrel, with contact all through the leg, and still.

I can't imagine squeezing every single stride.

I think that was just someone's way of explaining the difference between saddle seat eq and hunter seat eq. I doubt that anyone's going around the hunter seat eq ring with busy, active legs.
     
    04-28-2012, 07:34 PM
  #3
Trained
That makes more sense. Maybe my niece just can't explain it right. I am shamefully ignorant of saddleseat, I am afraid......and she and her daughter have always ridden that. Thanks.
     
    05-07-2012, 06:40 PM
  #4
Foal
You are supposed to keep your legs wrapped around the horse with your heels down and toes slightly pointed out. They should be tight as a tick and you "squeeze" the horse instead of kicking because it is more subtle and prettier.

She will probably have to refine everything she has been taught and it will take a while for her to get used to a new discipline! They are very different
     
    05-07-2012, 07:15 PM
  #5
Trained
Hunt seat eq is like English horsemanship, has a pattern and then rail work.
     
    05-11-2012, 03:18 PM
  #6
Foal
I rode in college in IHSA - is that what this school has? She'll have to change up her position a bit, that's all. With her riding background, she'll probably get placed in the walk-trot-canter division. We had a girl who showed American Saddlebreds to a very high level and then did hunters with us in college, and she adjusted just fine.

I don't know much about saddleseat, but to me it looks like they ride with their hands higher (which makes sense since the horses carry their heads higher) and with their leg sort of out in front of them, so she'll have to lower her hands, bring her leg back under her, and in hunters we ride in a lighter seat (more on our crotch instead of on our seat bones, with a more forward hip angle). The only other change I recall our saddleseat rider having to make was that she put on a ton of makeup on her face at her first show. Seems like in saddleseat and western pleasure, they like the makeup and such? But in hunters, we don't need makeup.

Wanted to add, in hunter equitation classes there aren't any patterns usually. Just rail work. Occasionally a judge might test the riders with a short pattern for regionals, zones, nationals, etc, to help place the top riders, but typically not.
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    06-10-2012, 03:49 PM
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I don't know much about saddleseat, but to me it looks like they ride with their hands higher (which makes sense since the horses carry their heads higher) and with their leg sort of out in front of them, so she'll have to lower her hands, bring her leg back under her, and in hunters we ride in a lighter seat (more on our crotch instead of on our seat bones, with a more forward hip angle). The only other change I recall our saddleseat rider having to make was that she put on a ton of makeup on her face at her first show. Seems like in saddleseat and western pleasure, they like the makeup and such? But in hunters, we don't need makeup.
Haha like my trainer, who teaches two colleges ,Ga Tech and GSU, also teaches both western/rodeo and english, she's always saying "English judges don't care how big your butt is, how white your teeth are, or how perky you boobs are. Western judges care, so if you ever do a rodeo, sit up and smile and look pretty- you'll get more points that way"


Also, you have to point into a certain class don't you?
     
    06-14-2012, 11:07 PM
  #8
Foal
They used to have a questionnaire that helps determine what level you start showing at, and coach has to sign off that you're capable of doing that level. Then when you accumulate points (used to be 35, but may have changed) you qualify for regionals and move to the next level.
     
    06-15-2012, 09:48 AM
  #9
Weanling
My best friend on my IHSA team came from Morgans, and she actually had a tough time adjusting. Since she had shown all over in Morgans, the only IHSAs she was originally qualified for was Open, since she had so many blue ribbons in rated flat classes. They got that fixed this year and she moved down to beginner WTC and has been doing very well.
     

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