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post #1 of 13 Old 07-14-2014, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
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Hunt Seat Saddle fit

Ok, so I'm very new to the hunt seat circle so bare with me. My son is in his second year of four h and we have a pony this year that he plans to ride hunt seat. I bought a small child sized hunt seat saddle and off we went. Well the saddle slides forward on the pony. He went to his first fun show and was riding English for the 3rd time ever and someone snotted off as they walked by "are you riding the horse or its neck" after he came out of his class. I pulled the saddle back and readjusted the girth put him back on and ten minutes later the saddle had already worked its way back forward. I decided the girth must be too big so I bought a new girth and it fastens 3rd hole up on each side of the saddle. So I know its not to big. Yet tonight the saddle slid forward again.
I personally think that when the saddle is sitting correctly behind her withers that the girth is not coming around her belly correctly. Instead of fastening just behind her front legs it fastens at the fattest part of her belly. So its not rocket science to figure out its going to slide to the narrower portion of her body. My mother was over and said maybe there is a "pony" hunt seat saddle that is set up with different rigging so that it wouldn't fasten halfway through her belly.
Is there such a thing? I've checked several tack stores online and nobody says it has pony rigging, just that its a 14" seat. I have a 14" seat now so obviously seat size does not distinguish the rigging type.
Advice please! Thanks
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post #2 of 13 Old 07-14-2014, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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This is where the saddle slides up to. Yes I know it looks awful.

Second pic is where we moved it back to one of the times but it still needed to move back another few inches. If you look at her belly and picture the girth back another 3 inches you can see what I mean about how far back the girth rests and why its a no brainer its going to continue to slide forward.
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post #3 of 13 Old 07-14-2014, 10:56 PM
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In the first picture, the girth is where it should be, resting in the groove behind her elbows.

A few things may be causing it to move forward.

Is the pony built downhill, meaning her front end is lower than her rump when she is standing on level ground?

Also, the saddle appears to be much too big for her. It gives the impression of being too wide.

It would be helpful to have pictures of the saddle from the front on either side with the camera level with the button, with no pad on and the saddle not girthed up. The pictures should be taken from directly next to the pony's shoulder. Similar to the pictures in this thread: New English Saddle for Friesian Draft X; Fit or no? They need to be taken in good light, too, so either daylight with the sun directly overhead or behind you, or with the flash.
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post #4 of 13 Old 07-15-2014, 02:06 AM
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could you post some daytime photos of the saddle on him? the fit is incorrect. I think that that saddle will not be usable for you.
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post #5 of 13 Old 07-16-2014, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
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I can take more pictures this afternoon when we go to his lesson. I am aware that the saddle does not fit though.
The four H advisor said last night to try a riser on it but other than that she couldn't offer much advice if there is a difference in hunt seats. (Like a western saddle has a pony, semi quarter, full quarter and draft/wide tree variance)

I figure we need to buy a different saddle...problem is I just don't know what I'm looking for. She seems to move very nicely English. So I want to pursue what it is I need for her.
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Our mustang pony has a very broad back but narrow shoulders. It makes it tough to find any saddle that fits him. What is working OK with him is my Australian-style saddle (similar to English) used with a thin saddle blanket and this:

Wintec Comfort Saddle Pad With Lift -

I don't use a thick pad under an English saddle as a rule, but if I do, I want it to be the dense foam. The soft think stuff makes the sliding worse. I use the same pad under our Abetta saddle when my wife rides him. I also angle the girth/cinch forward as needed from the start of the ride - whatever location gives me the smallest circumference.

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Originally Posted by pebbs View Post

I figure we need to buy a different saddle...problem is I just don't know what I'm looking for.
What height is your pony, your son?
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post #8 of 13 Old 07-18-2014, 05:33 PM
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I don't think that saddle is fitting her but it's hard to tell in the pictures exactly what is going on and how to fix it. My first thought is that it's too big and she probably doesn't have much wither/shoulder. Can you take a picture of the saddle on her back without the pad? (front, side, and back).

A temporary option is to get a crupper. It's a thing that loops around the tail and keeps the saddle from sliding forward. I've known a few ponies that have required one but if the saddle doesn't fit your horse's back you can be causing her pain.

What kind of English riding are you wanting to do?
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Ok, after talking to a local tack shop lady who deals with much english stuff she told me how to measure the seat. From the bottom (2nd) button to the middle of the middle back of the seat its 16.5/17 inches depending on if I measure just from the button or from the leather edge. The flaps from the saddle iron bar down were 17inches and the gullet (first buttons) is 6 inches. So we have determined that the saddle is horse size, and adult size. Its amazing what you'll buy when you dont know what your looking at lol. ("oh, that's a kids size pony saddle"...yeah right.)

The lady at the tack shop said english to western conversion...english is 2" bigger than western. So a 12 inch english is like a 10 inch western saddle. My son rides a 12 inch western saddle so I guess that puts us looking for a 14 inch english?? Am I correct here?

The gullet is huge on her. We put a riser on (backwards to give more lift) and the saddle sat more correct on her but man you could just see that the gullet is huge for her. Your right she does not have much wither to stop her. I am not sure if the tail thing would be "legal" for four H. She is narrow up front.

We only have about 5 weeks until fair. Does anyone know where you can get a "narrow" english tree? like that the gullet would only be about 4 inches?
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post #10 of 13 Old 07-24-2014, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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Tried the crupper and it worked perfectly. Now just to find out if he can use it for 4H shows or not. Either way for normal riding around here or lessons this totally kept the saddle from sliding. Thanks!!
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