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    06-22-2012, 07:52 PM
  #1
Foal
Learning Auto Release?

All my life I've learned crest release and only crest release. Well now I want I need to take it a step further and learn how to do a proper auto release. The problem is, I'm not sure I have the strength, plus it's pure habit to do a crest release. So does anyone have tips for learning how to do a proper auto release, gain the strength and balance needed to do so, and being able to follow through without catching the horse in the mouth? I've asked my trainer and she really didn't give much help on the matter, so I'd like to hear the advice of people here. Thanks
     
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    06-22-2012, 08:27 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Get video, get a trainer or good friend who knows what you need to do and that can help you and get video. Prctice practice practice! You can do it!

Slot of your weigh will need to be absorbed through your heels and lower leg and lots of streching through your upper body will help too!
     
    06-22-2012, 08:29 PM
  #3
Trained
Put your stirrups in the highest hole and ride upright like a jockey (frog position). Learn how to ask for forward, change direction and stop without falling. When you can do that at the walk, add in some trotting and do the same - forward, direction change, stop - but also add transitions, up and down. When you can do all THAT, do the same at the canter. Then canter around for as long as you and your horse can manage. Post the trot at beats (stay up for 2 beats, down for 1 and so on). Post the canter (each stride is either you going up or coming down). If you can get your horse to walk/trot/canter and maintain cadence, move your arms around, up, down, forward, back, bend over forward, lean back, touch your toes. Basically move your arms and upper body around and force yourself to remain balanced.

This will improve your balance and improve your ability to maintain your balance should your horse do something unexpected. It will in turn make you rely less on your hands and let you release without leaning.

It's HARD and will take MONTHS to perfect but once you get it down your allover riding skill will improve heaps!

Good luck!
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    06-22-2012, 10:49 PM
  #4
Foal
Thanks for the replies! I'll definitely try all that. It sounds like lot's of hard work but I'm up for the challenge.
     
    06-22-2012, 11:45 PM
  #5
Green Broke
An auto release is a lot more then just not putting your hands down on the crest, it's about being able to maintain the contact with your horse's mouth over the jump. So you must be able to have an independent hand with very good contact on the flat before you consider trying it over fences.

First and foremost you must have a very strong and correct leg/position. Without it you cannot maintain the proper balance. Lots of stirrupless work and work at the 2 point will help you there. Can you jump without hands? If not, practice that first. I think it's easiest to set up some gymnastics through a chute and work on jumping with your hands out to the side. So once you have a strong and solid position and a good feel on your horse's mouth... then you can practice the auto release. The way I've seen George Morris teach it is to just lower your hands a few inches so that you're hands are more on the sides of your horses neck rather then on top and separate them out a little. He had them start off with a slightly looser rein so they didn't accidentally hit their horse's in the mouth.

Something to consider... I hear a lot of people here complain about the crest release because "George Morris says it's bad, and since he started it, it must be bad." George Morris thinks its very important for beginners. He regrets putting an emphasis on it because advanced riders have gotten lazy and don't bother to learn an auto release, they rely on the crest. In the clinics I've seen, he doesn't even get into starting the auto release until the groups that are SHOWING (and usually winning) at 3"6. The group he was challenging to really work on it was the 4" group. I have no idea what level rider/jumper you are but *most* people I see jumping 2"3-2"6 and below (which is most people around here) are not solid enough to be doing a true auto release. A rider attempting an auto release that isn't strong enough will end up hitting their horse in the mouth and back over the fence. I think relying on the crest is far less a sin then that.
     
    06-23-2012, 06:00 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by upnover    
In the clinics I've seen, he doesn't even get into starting the auto release until the groups that are SHOWING (and usually winning) at 3"6. The group he was challenging to really work on it was the 4" group. I have no idea what level rider/jumper you are but *most* people I see jumping 2"3-2"6 and below (which is most people around here) are not solid enough to be doing a true auto release. A rider attempting an auto release that isn't strong enough will end up hitting their horse in the mouth and back over the fence. I think relying on the crest is far less a sin then that.
I'm still in the 2"3 - 2"3 category and true, I'm not quite sure if I'm solid enough. The thing is, my instructor doesn't usually higher the jumps much. I know practice makes perfect and it's important to perfect the smaller jumps first but in the lesson I'm in I wouldn't be able to jump higher even if I could. Going up in jump size and difficulty would require moving to another lesson which would involve switching days, which would be really inconvenient. I am, however, allowed a few free rides where I'm allowed to do flatwork and poles. I may not be solid enough now but I'm willing to work to build up my balance and strength during those rides until I am strong enough. I'm not planning on trying to go straight from crest to auto right away.

And about the first part of your post... I'll definitely try that.
     
    06-25-2012, 07:56 AM
  #7
Banned
I love upnover's answer above.

However, I do commend you for being interested in advancing your riding and learning another technique.

The exercises I would recommend to get you started in this direction are grids or gymastics with no reins. The first step in learning an auto release to a true independent seat over the fences, with no need to take support from the neck. So over a grid (a cross rail to a vertical to an oxer, with one stride distances is a good one.) tie your reins in a knot and go through the grid with arms dangling and then with hands on your hips. If that's successful and the rest of your position doesn't deteriorate, try resting your hands on the neck and feeling the horse's head and neck move as a balancing gesture and then try reaching forward towards the bit with your hand and over each fence.

If at any point you're losing your position in the air, go back to crest releasing until you feel solid again.

In the last exercise, you're essentially *practicing* an auto release without risking your horse's mouth.

And even if you never use the auto release, these are still terrific exercises to develop timing and feel.

Other things to consider - most riders don't use a true crest release (one of GM's beefs) but allow their hands to float over the neck in an exxagerated broken line. Start your progress towards an auto release (and a more correct crest release) by dropping your hands down a couple inches and resting them on the muscle mass of the neck, rather than floating above the mane.

The progression towards an auto release is gradually moving the hand and arm downward while shortening the release, but still taking support from the neck. The final steps are when you have the straight arm from bit to elbow, are taking no support from the neck and are softly following the head and neck in the air.
     
    06-26-2012, 06:38 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by maura    
I love upnover's answer above.

However, I do commend you for being interested in advancing your riding and learning another technique.

The exercises I would recommend to get you started in this direction are grids or gymastics with no reins. The first step in learning an auto release to a true independent seat over the fences, with no need to take support from the neck. So over a grid (a cross rail to a vertical to an oxer, with one stride distances is a good one.) tie your reins in a knot and go through the grid with arms dangling and then with hands on your hips. If that's successful and the rest of your position doesn't deteriorate, try resting your hands on the neck and feeling the horse's head and neck move as a balancing gesture and then try reaching forward towards the bit with your hand and over each fence.

If at any point you're losing your position in the air, go back to crest releasing until you feel solid again.

In the last exercise, you're essentially *practicing* an auto release without risking your horse's mouth.

And even if you never use the auto release, these are still terrific exercises to develop timing and feel.

Other things to consider - most riders don't use a true crest release (one of GM's beefs) but allow their hands to float over the neck in an exxagerated broken line. Start your progress towards an auto release (and a more correct crest release) by dropping your hands down a couple inches and resting them on the muscle mass of the neck, rather than floating above the mane.

The progression towards an auto release is gradually moving the hand and arm downward while shortening the release, but still taking support from the neck. The final steps are when you have the straight arm from bit to elbow, are taking no support from the neck and are softly following the head and neck in the air.
Thank you
     

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