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    06-01-2012, 11:38 AM
I know what they're supposed to be like, just not how to get them there.
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    06-01-2012, 11:43 AM
Then you need a trainer familiar with the discipline.
    06-01-2012, 01:40 PM
Okay then.
    06-01-2012, 01:44 PM

Point was already made, no purpose in continuing along the same line.
    06-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Bye. Deleting.
    06-05-2012, 09:29 AM
My un-educated take on a western HUS horse is : Get a really really good western pleasure horse then throw on a english saddle

Lol I have no idea, my post was pointless :)
    06-06-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GoAppendix    
I don't get what you are asking. You claim to have been to many AQHA shows, yet have to ask online what makes a good horse? You should know this if you're as well versed as you claim.

Also, minimal training years ago does not an AQHA show horse make.
Since she doesn't have an AQHA trainer and is relying on a hunter based trainer, I can see why she'd go to the internet for advice. I'm glad to see she's looking for advice rather than trying to do it by mimicing what is seen at the shows and on youtube.

I think it's great that a person is aware of their limitations and is trying to figure out the right way to achieve results. Obviously an AQHA trainer or coach would be the preferred route but if that's not available to you then you have to find another route.

Out of curiousity, are their any dressage trainers in your area? That might be closer to what you need then a hunt trainer.
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    06-06-2012, 11:15 AM
So she'll just mimic what she reads online? I don't see how that is better. As I am sure you know, training horses is not easy. Training AQHA-level show horses is absolutely not easy. If it was a very specific issue, sure ask for advice. But these are sweeping, overgeneralized threads that show a lack of basic knowledge.
    06-06-2012, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GoAppendix    
So she'll just mimic what she reads online? I don't see how that is better. As I am sure you know, training horses is not easy. Training AQHA-level show horses is absolutely not easy. If it was a very specific issue, sure ask for advice. But these are sweeping, overgeneralized threads that show a lack of basic knowledge.
That's very true and I started out with who I thought was an excellent AQHA trainer. In fact, I never EVER questioned her methods until I found this forum and posted some pictures and videos. The way I got slammed for the movement and the way I used my draw reins really made me mad. I was so angry with the Know-it-alls on this board. Morons actually. But it made me start thinking. Am I doing it right?

Out of loyalty I stayed with said trainer but I did not post many more photos (only the ones I knew would not get me slammed). I started to ask questions here and there but still was in the line of thinking that my awesome trainer was smarter than the board.

The questions I was asking were generally answered by hunter folks who aren't giving the responses that are needed for a breed based training. Over the last year or two we've (the forum) have picked up quite a few breed specific riders which has really been helpful to me.

Through reading the way they responded to other folks questions I was able to figure out that I had fallen into the heavy on the forehand, too slow, broken four beat trope trap. I was dependent on training tools and did not know how to rid myself of them and was using an ill-fitting saddle that I purchased from my most awesome trainer.

I do actually still really like that person and I do think she does a great job with beginner level riders and would never speak badly of her in public or type her name over the internet. BUT

From asking questions on this board and from reading questions asked by members, I was able to determine that I needed to move on. I did and the guy I first moved to immediately said "screw headset and screw slow" because I was so broken he just wanted me to get my horse moving forward again.

The vet checked my tack and I gave away my trainer saddle and am currently riding in my show saddle. (I haven't bought a new trainer yet). We've also done Chiro and I bought a new high dollar therepeudic pad using the advice I got from this board. It's made a difference.

I have now moved on to another trainer as the one I was using has some severe health issues and was in so much pain. He actually suggested the trainer I am with now and the improvement in a short time has been huge. Not only in my horses movement and my riding, but also in my horses health.

Without this board I may never have questions the methods to which we were training.

That being said, she someone use the advice of strangers on an internet board as their sole purpose for training? Absolutely not but using the advice to figure out where you need to be, where you want to go, and how you want to get there... Totally...

What I'm saying is, she's asking the right questions. She absolutely really needs to look for an AQHA trainer to go the places she wants to go but at least she knows she needs help....
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    06-06-2012, 01:30 PM
I am sorry, but I don't see how that is relevant to this poster. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. The OP is just asking incredibly general questions that could be answered with some involvement in the discipline, which when people suggest this, she claims to have. Thing aren't adding up.

If things were more specific, people would be able to provide her with more targeted and helpful advice. But until she is more familiar with the discipline, which really comes from being actively involved, she isn't going to find much help here.

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