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    03-06-2013, 10:35 PM
  #21
Green Broke
Like local shows or schooling shows. Equitation classes are flat classes with a patteren. That sounds like a good show to go for!
     
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    03-06-2013, 11:15 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
Like local shows or schooling shows. Equitation classes are flat classes with a patteren. That sounds like a good show to go for!
Ok cool!! Thanks!!
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    03-07-2013, 10:30 PM
  #23
Green Broke
A few answers and comments...

Shows are classified into different categories, technically the distinction is the amount of prize money given. To be classified as an "A" show you have to give out a certain amount and to be an "AA" show you have to give even more (and these are governed by USEF). Then there are "C" shows which are local level or "schooling" shows. Schooling shows are much smaller, much more casual, and an excellent place to learn the ropes and/or bring green horses. They may be more forgiving of mistakes, the competition is usually not horribly competitive, it's often ok not to braid or wear tall boots as opposed to half chaps. Things like that. At A shows many of the riders are from out of state, the competition can be challenging, and you really will stick out if you aren't braided and dressed traditionally.

My first suggestion is what other people have said, find a good trainer! Second, would be to start off at a schooling show. Your horse is pretty cute! I also agree that she could do well at lower level hunter classes. What is meant by that is a class that's not very high (therefore not super competitive) at a show that is not super competitive. To show in the 3" divisions at A shows your horse MUST have a lead change and the courses will be set on at least a 12 ft stride. She must be a very good mover. And while your horse is really quite cute she isn't quite up to par with some of the fancier warmbloods you see in the upper level classes these days. Some local circuits are pretty challenging even if they aren't A rated. Our local circuit offers about 10 shows a year and a lot of those horses go to a few of the A shows around here so it's not easy. It's a well run circuit with top notch judges (well, most of the time!) even though it's casual enough that we don't braid manes!

The main difference between hunters and jumpers is what they're being judged on. Do a search on here, the topic has been covered a bazillion times but what people have said is right, hunters need to be quiet, consistent, get every distance correctly, jump round, move with a long flat kneed stride, etc. The highest they are offered is actually about 4" in the Regular Working Hunter division, but I recently saw a 4"3 performance hunter division. Your horse moves decently and has a cute jump. Cute expression overall. At our local shows she must have a lead change to be in the ribbons. Other circuits allow for a simple change. That's the beauty of the schooling show.

Equitation is actually a type of class that is not based on the horse at all, but based on the rider. They are usually flat classes AND jumping classes. They will be judged not only on your position but how well you can navigate the course and how well you ride on the flat.

The Texas Rose Horse Park is an EXCELLENT and beautiful venue I love going to! The prizelist looks like it offers some great classes to get your feet wet.

Hope that helps a bit!
     
    03-07-2013, 10:40 PM
  #24
Green Broke
I just looked at the prizelist again. I know a few people involved! Including one of the judges, I'm going to assume is the Ring 1 judge. He is very very knowledgeable and trains some really stellar riders/horses. He travels the A/AA circuit and does a super job. I'd be surprised if he doesn't penalize not having a lead change. I have a feeling this circuit is probably decently competitive on the line of schooling shows. I'd start off smaller, like the 2"3 or 2"6 hunters. But If I were you I'd also enter the derby for fun. :) Your horse shouldn't have any issues with the higher option fences and looks like could have a very nice handy round if you get called back. OR just start off in the jumpers were silly things like lead changes don't matter. ;) BUT, if you do make sure you know what Table II Sec C and B mean. They're clarifications on how to do the jump off (Power and Speed or Timed first Jump off). I wrote it all out on another post a while back, do a search! If you can't find it let me know and I'll type it all out again. Hope that helps!
     
    03-07-2013, 11:30 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by upnover    
A few answers and comments...

Shows are classified into different categories, technically the distinction is the amount of prize money given. To be classified as an "A" show you have to give out a certain amount and to be an "AA" show you have to give even more (and these are governed by USEF). Then there are "C" shows which are local level or "schooling" shows. Schooling shows are much smaller, much more casual, and an excellent place to learn the ropes and/or bring green horses. They may be more forgiving of mistakes, the competition is usually not horribly competitive, it's often ok not to braid or wear tall boots as opposed to half chaps. Things like that. At A shows many of the riders are from out of state, the competition can be challenging, and you really will stick out if you aren't braided and dressed traditionally.

My first suggestion is what other people have said, find a good trainer! Second, would be to start off at a schooling show. Your horse is pretty cute! I also agree that she could do well at lower level hunter classes. What is meant by that is a class that's not very high (therefore not super competitive) at a show that is not super competitive. To show in the 3" divisions at A shows your horse MUST have a lead change and the courses will be set on at least a 12 ft stride. She must be a very good mover. And while your horse is really quite cute she isn't quite up to par with some of the fancier warmbloods you see in the upper level classes these days. Some local circuits are pretty challenging even if they aren't A rated. Our local circuit offers about 10 shows a year and a lot of those horses go to a few of the A shows around here so it's not easy. It's a well run circuit with top notch judges (well, most of the time!) even though it's casual enough that we don't braid manes!

The main difference between hunters and jumpers is what they're being judged on. Do a search on here, the topic has been covered a bazillion times but what people have said is right, hunters need to be quiet, consistent, get every distance correctly, jump round, move with a long flat kneed stride, etc. The highest they are offered is actually about 4" in the Regular Working Hunter division, but I recently saw a 4"3 performance hunter division. Your horse moves decently and has a cute jump. Cute expression overall. At our local shows she must have a lead change to be in the ribbons. Other circuits allow for a simple change. That's the beauty of the schooling show.

Equitation is actually a type of class that is not based on the horse at all, but based on the rider. They are usually flat classes AND jumping classes. They will be judged not only on your position but how well you can navigate the course and how well you ride on the flat.

The Texas Rose Horse Park is an EXCELLENT and beautiful venue I love going to! The prizelist looks like it offers some great classes to get your feet wet.

Hope that helps a bit!
Thank you for what you said about my horse and for helping with absolutely EVERYTHING haha and....
Oh my goodness!! You've been there?!? What was it like (if you can remember)???
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    03-08-2013, 12:11 AM
  #26
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by RunningJumpingHorses    
Thank you for what you said about my horse and for helping with absolutely EVERYTHING haha and....
Oh my goodness!! You've been there?!? What was it like (if you can remember)???
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You're very welcome! And like I said, let me know if you have any other questions!

The horse park is BEAUTIFUL. It's just a super facility with great footing, I love showing there! It's in a pretty part of TX, rolling hills, lots of trees, curvy country roads, etc and then out in the middle of no where is, BAM this HUUUUUUGE horse park! The barns are ok, lots of wash racks where I've stayed. I"ve only done the rated shows there and there were many many many rings (not sure which ones they'd use for a schooling show though) and then those are surrounded by huge cross country courses! The place is huge and very very open. There's a nicely sized indoor right in the middle of the showgrounds that they didn't really use for the show (used it for a clinic I rode in) Pretty judges stands with split wood fencing, just a really attractive place to ride. I hope you get to go! Even if you don't end up showing your horse at this one you should at least check out a show and see what they're all about and waht to expect.
     
    03-08-2013, 08:10 AM
  #27
Foal
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Originally Posted by upnover    
You're very welcome! And like I said, let me know if you have any other questions!

The horse park is BEAUTIFUL. It's just a super facility with great footing, I love showing there! It's in a pretty part of TX, rolling hills, lots of trees, curvy country roads, etc and then out in the middle of no where is, BAM this HUUUUUUGE horse park! The barns are ok, lots of wash racks where I've stayed. I"ve only done the rated shows there and there were many many many rings (not sure which ones they'd use for a schooling show though) and then those are surrounded by huge cross country courses! The place is huge and very very open. There's a nicely sized indoor right in the middle of the showgrounds that they didn't really use for the show (used it for a clinic I rode in) Pretty judges stands with split wood fencing, just a really attractive place to ride. I hope you get to go! Even if you don't end up showing your horse at this one you should at least check out a show and see what they're all about and waht to expect.
The place sounds gorgeous!!! So excited! Haha
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