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  • Is a pelham bit allowed at a rated shows
  • Is standard pelham legal in hunter horse shows

 
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    07-23-2012, 08:41 PM
  #11
Green Broke
I would be bold enough to say that 95% of horses on the rated circuit show in either some sort of a D ring or a pelham. They are VERY acceptable and I have never heard of anyone getting counted off, even as a tie breaker. I see them in the upper levels, I see them in derbies, I see them everywhere. I've used one on several horses for years and as far as I know haven't been judged unfairly because of it.

In the eq ring they are not only acceptable but in this day and age the latest fashion whether or not you need one. I watched the Maclay finals a year or so ago and literally EVERY SINGLE horse had a pelham. And i'm certain some of those machines didn't need one!
     
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    07-23-2012, 08:53 PM
  #12
Green Broke
Just needed to add... I don't think Pelhams are all the rage in the hunters (eq definitely, hunters no). At least not in the US. I would still say that the vast majority are going to be D rings (google pics of the international hunter derbies). But it's almost like a rule: if it doesn't go in a D ring slap a pelham on it!
     
    07-23-2012, 11:13 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Lol upnover! Well I asked my trainer via email and she said "show in the dee" so I asked her whether she thought the judges in our area and at the show we're traveling to this weekend frowned upon Pelhams. I'll see what she says back. Rode in the snaffle tonight and had a pretty good ride, but the Pelham just gets me more consistency from her and less arguing, especially on her stiff side!

Ugh I hate the left hand lol
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    07-23-2012, 11:25 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Could you school her in the Pelham and then switch right before you go in the ring? I had a horse that showed really well doing that.


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lol upnover! Well I asked my trainer via email and she said "show in the dee" so I asked her whether she thought the judges in our area and at the show we're traveling to this weekend frowned upon Pelhams. I'll see what she says back. Rode in the snaffle tonight and had a pretty good ride, but the Pelham just gets me more consistency from her and less arguing, especially on her stiff side!

Ugh I hate the left hand lol
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    07-24-2012, 12:04 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by upnover    
Could you school her in the Pelham and then switch right before you go in the ring? I had a horse that showed really well doing that.



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Oh that's a thought!
     
    07-25-2012, 06:19 PM
  #16
Foal
I show on the "A" circuit in the US & haven't had any pinning problems using my pelham with both reins... A lot of others use the pelham too. I'd rather be able to be in control & have a nicer looking horse using my pelham, than trying to use a snaffle & losing a class because I didn't have as much control as I could have. And honestly, not many judges are going to remember, or write down, what bit you use, unless it's something illegal.
     
    07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
  #17
Yearling
Why would your trainer ask you to ride in a bit that shows your horse's bad side when you have a legal bit that shows her good side? Can she not see the difference? Anywho, a Pelham is legal, and if your horse is behaving very well, I can see the judges actually pinning a pelham higher than a dee, only because it shows that both rider and horse have the experiance and temperment neccassary to handle such a bit. And I'm from US :)
     
    07-26-2012, 07:01 AM
  #18
Green Broke
She doesn't behave badly in a snaffle, just harder to get her to tuck her nose in and round vs the Pelham. In my lesson last night my trainer explained that for my girl she thinks using the Pelham occasionally is a great training tool but she doesn't believe she needs it all the time. I'll find a video to post on here with her going in the snaffle dee.
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    07-26-2012, 08:05 AM
  #19
Green Broke
Alright here she is in an under saddle class in her snaffle dee...(she's the buckskin):

     
    07-26-2012, 08:07 AM
  #20
Green Broke
So I don't really need the pelham to control her, more just to refine her frame and encourage her to carry herself properly...and yes, I understand that comes from her hind and my legs/seat are the main driving aids, but the pelham helps me by encouraging her to stretch her head down which prevents her from hollowing her back out.

OH and if anyone's interested, the class was I think either 14 or 16 horses and we placed 4th
     

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