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  • Whyn do they sit so far back in saddle seat horse
  • Will new stirrup leathers help my leg position

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    05-29-2012, 02:39 AM
  #1
Foal
Trouble riding in chair seat

No matter what I do, I still end up in a chair seat. I shot video today of me riding and I start out okay but end up with legs right over girth instead of under me. In both close contact and dressage saddle, my knees are bent and feet and legs over girth. I pull them back constantly but they end up back there. I have been struggling with moving feet too much while posting trot and the only way to quiet my legs is to relax them in whatever position they fall which is forward..not jammed forward just forward. What else can I do? Anyone suffered from this and fixed it and if so how?
     
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    05-29-2012, 04:10 AM
  #2
Showing
Try the exercises in this video:
Is this your saddle or the riding school's saddle? If it's yours, it may not fit you and you can do something about it.

Some saddles seat riders in an un-natural position so they fight to keep their legs or upper bodies in the right place or they sit too far forward on their pubic bone, etc.

When you take your feet out of the stirrups (hopefully someone is holding your horse for you) and pull your knees up to meet at the pommel together, sit up really really tall and then drop them down, where do they end up?

Also spending more time in 2-point will help align your legs together, so long as you're using your CORE to balance, and not your hands.
     
    05-29-2012, 09:17 PM
  #3
Foal
Yes it is my own saddle (s). I do alot of 2 point and my legs are fine in two point, canter and sitting trot they are perfect. It's my rising trot where I start out okay but then end up at the girth. I am told my model of saddle (devoucoux biarritz) puts people in a chair seat. So, maybe I created a muscle memory in this saddle that transferred over to my new dressage saddle. It's not the barrel of the horse because
I do this on three or four different horses. So frustrating because when I first started riding I had quieter legs and better positioning and now my trainer is mentioning this problem more and more to me and I try everything but can't seem to fix it.



[QUOTE=Skyseternalangel;1521909]Try the exercises in this video:
Is this your saddle or the riding school's saddle? If it's yours, it may not fit you and you can do something about it.

Some saddles seat riders in an un-natural position so they fight to keep their legs or upper bodies in the right place or they sit too far forward on their pubic bone, etc.

When you take your feet out of the stirrups (hopefully someone is holding your horse for you) and pull your knees up to meet at the pommel together, sit up really really tall and then drop them down, where do they end up?

Also spending more time in 2-point will help align your legs together, so long as you're using your CORE to balance, and not your hands.[/QUOT
     
    05-29-2012, 10:42 PM
  #4
Showing
So it's only when posting?

Are you using the stirrups to post, or letting the horse's momentum lift you?

There IS a difference :P
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    05-29-2012, 11:16 PM
  #5
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The chair seat while posting is often from gripping with the knee. If you stirrups are too long, then you either go "fishing " for them or you basically ignore thenm and post completely off your knee. If you knee is out in front of you, you have to lever yourself up off the pivot point that is out in front of you, and you will struggle to not fall behind the motion of the horse.

Could your saddle be out of balance on the horse's back , in that the pommel is higher than it should be, so you are sitting on a saddle that is too "uphill" in position (puts you in that chair seat, and makes you fall behind the motion)
     
    05-29-2012, 11:39 PM
  #6
Trained
I recommend posting some pictures. Based on the pictures in your barn, I'd say your saddle is too long for you.

The saddle is designed to be ridden with your rump in the lowest part of the seat, and the stirrup leathers hanging straight down. That makes gravity your friend. And from what I can see in your barn, it looks like that puts you in a 'chair seat'.

     
    05-29-2012, 11:45 PM
  #7
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Originally Posted by bsms    
The saddle is designed to be ridden with your rump in the lowest part of the seat, and the stirrup leathers hanging straight down. That makes gravity your friend. And from what I can see in your barn, it looks like that puts you in a 'chair seat'.
From that picture it looks like the saddle isn't level and you can see the stirrup leathers are being pushed forward due to her leg position.....
     
    05-29-2012, 11:58 PM
  #8
Trained
The stirrup leathers look close to vertical to me. In the photo below, whoever is riding does NOT have vertical stirrup leathers:

     
    05-30-2012, 12:11 AM
  #9
Showing
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Originally Posted by bsms    
The stirrup leathers look close to vertical to me. In the photo below, whoever is riding does NOT have vertical stirrup leathers:
They are 2 inches too far forward in the picture. That one you just posted is being pulled back.

And I apologize, OP.. did not see that this was for Hunters. But the video should help you out
     
    05-30-2012, 02:33 AM
  #10
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Let's see if Coffeemama has pics she chooses to post.
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