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post #21 of 25 Old 05-16-2011, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
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My heel problem is my heels sometimes creep up.
I already knew the basics when I started taking lessons so all I have been doing is working on walk/trot transitions and jumping.
My instructor never taught me how to do half-seat , maybe shes a bad trainer? I don't have the money for a better one or for private lessons because im 13 and already have a job that barely pays for my current lesson, my mum doesn't pay anything.
Im trying to save while my trainer is off for a private.
My horse rushes into jumps im guessing because he wasn't jump in a while.
He is healthy , he was vet checked before we got him.
I don't have the time to do much work with him at the minute because of school exams , my dog and helping out a 10yr with his homework.
Yes I probably am a crap rider but I dont have the money for a better trainer.
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post #22 of 25 Old 05-18-2011, 03:24 PM
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what I tend to do to help horse and rider perfect form is gymnastics. Since your wanting to go up in height id say to set up 3-5 jumps in a varying line. One to four strides apart, make the majority your comfortable height. Lets say your jumping 2' great and want to try 2'6" and you set up 5 jumps in a line.Do it once at the 2' height or smaller so your horse knows what to expect. If hes never done gymnastics before practice them so he knows whats going on before doing any sort of height.Once he knows how to go through the grid set it up for yourself to work on height. Make the first jump a high xrail, like 1'9 in the center, and a stride later have a 2'3 vertical then two strides later a 2'6 vertical, then two strides later a 2' vertical and then a stride or two later a 2' or smaller jump. Get the idea? Make the jump in the middle your targeted, yet realistic! height, and then the jumps before and after at a comfortable height for you. This helps because 1)your horse is naturally going to be rocking back more due to the gymnastic exercise therefore the change in height isnt going to catch him as off guard as it would if he just went up to a single fence. We dont want him not paying attention and knocking rails and potential irritating himself, or tripping and you losing your balance. And 2) because your doing this grid of numerous jumps, the majority of which are at a very comfortable height for you, so the goal height fence in the middle is going to come and go quickly while your focused on other aspects of the grid. Ive found with most riders that if you set up a single fence at a higher height to start to get them used to it they will worry and stress all the way up to it. If its placed in the middle of a line of fences with very specific distances your busy focusing on everything else except height. After youve done that a few times and feel comfortable set up a typical jumper course and randomly make a few jumps higher. Now before I mentioned to be realistic, what I mean by that is, if for instance your comfortable jumping 2' fences and you want to work up to the 3'6 jumpers, dont go and put a fence at 3'6! The higher the fences, the more the horse has to use himself, therefore a typical horse can feel great over 2' but you stick a 3' fence in front of them and theyre going to have to rock back and launch more and its hard to stay with until your used to it! So make your realistic goal of height about 6" higher than what your comfortable at at that time. If your currently comfortable at 2'3 then make the goal 2'9, and so forth. Dont want to shake yourself loose in the saddle just to reach your highest goal too quickly!

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post #23 of 25 Old 05-18-2011, 03:30 PM
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as for heals, if I am riding a gymnastic I tell myself right before I pick up the trot or canter to stretch my heals down and grip with my calf and make sure everything is in position before I even get started. I have OVERLY flexible heals, kinda gross actually, and they stay down no problem for me so its hard for me to give advice. But if im jumping a green horse who may stop I always tell myself before the jump to just stretch down and apply my calf and sit up in the saddle so they stay down. You lean forward and theyll come up :)

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post #24 of 25 Old 05-18-2011, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by upnover View Post
This is probably not the advice you're looking for... but in your other posts you've mentioned

1) you don't know how to half seat
2) you have no real control at the canter
2) your horse rushes jumps

For someone to say that a position is perfect "except the heels" is kind of an oxymoron to me. Heels are such a BIG part of a correct position. It's not just about the heels but not having the heels right means that there are weaknesses in other places which affects your security and thus effectiveness to ride. it all goes together.

Given everything I said above? My biggest advice is to take this time that you have while your trainer is taking off to perfect your basics and work on your foundation. My students starting learning their half seat at their FIRST lesson. At the walk, before they even go into a trot. Before they can canter they must 1) have the correct position and 2) be able to do a posting trot w/no stirrups for an entire lap. Before they can jump they have to be able to steer circles at the canter WITHOUT stirrups. Yes, it takes a long time but basics and foundation are the #1 most important part of riding. Once you have that down jumping will come easily.
I also have to agree with upnover.

From other threads that you have posted, it sounds like you still have fundamental basic troubles, and should stick with working on those until moving up.

Height really isn't the challenge if you know your horse can jump that high. It is the effectiveness of your position and how you steer and manage the horse that is the more important part.

I was at a clinic over the weekend, and there were jumps at 2'-2'6"ish. Although the clinician (is that a word?) has horses in GP classes, this is what she schools them over, because of the paragraph above.

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post #25 of 25 Old 05-18-2011, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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Thank yous for your advice Especially FSH jumper :)

I worked him today , we worked on his whole rushing thing that he has and my heels.I used ground poles and half halts and it really worked well :) With the advice everyone has given I definately noticed and my heel only slipped back a few times.
I also measured him hes 16hh not 15.2hh like we were told LOL
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