Anybody have effective grid patterns or jumping exercises for a fast horse?

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    12-30-2010, 01:18 AM
Anybody have effective grid patterns or jumping exercises for a fast horse?

Shocking is extremely fast, even his collect canter is fast. When he sees a jump? He's a rocket. I was reading somewhere that horses that like to rush benefit on exercises that encourage them to think instead of being a more "point-shoot" time of deal.

I've been working a lot on his lateral work, but also incorporating low jumps. We've been especially working on our lead changes. I set a jump up against the wall. We jump it (generally no higher then 2ft, but I've done it at 2'9), then I ask him to come back. I complete a 20 meter circle where I am facing the wall. I then ask for a lead change and re-jump the fence. I then repeat on the other side. This sort of thing seems to be working for him.

Do you have any good/original grid patterns or jumping exercises that can improve the mentality of my horse?
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    12-30-2010, 01:44 AM
Green Broke
I read about one on here a while ago I will see if I can dig it up and post it on here :)
    12-30-2010, 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by RedTree    
I read about one on here a while ago I will see if I can dig it up and post it on here :)
That would be greatly appreciated thank you!
    12-30-2010, 02:01 AM
Green Broke
Okay I can't find it :( it is long burried
But I was reading other threads about it and have you tried circling around the jump or like circling in front of it so he is listening to you then going over it once you have established your chosen pace then straight after circling again
Also there was one where you stop the horse before the jump. Walk trot then go over then stop after.
I don't know about that one as it may teach bad habits before but stopping after is good
    12-30-2010, 12:28 PM
I have the same thing with my quarter horse. He speeds up at everything! I read that cantering poles can help slow them down...i'm trying but he isn't doing it haha
    12-30-2010, 12:35 PM
When I got my mare, she was absolutely insane. She was just fast in general, but the second she saw a jump there was no hope of controlling her... What I've found to work is walking the jumps. I'll walk her up to a cross rail that's say, 18 inches. We don't usually go over it, but she has to walk. Then I turn her around and we approach it again at the walk. If she starts trotting, we stop, back up, and I wait until she's standing nicely. Then we walk forward. If she's being good, I'll let her trot the last stride or two and we pop over the jump. If she takes off on the landing, I usually let her go. But I'll push her as fast as I can get her to go because then she's still not getting what she wants. We redo that and if she takes off, I let her. I let her go 3 or 4 times until she's out of breath. Then the next time I make her stop after, and back up and stand. (No, that's not cruel. It's effective ) I don't know if that'll help you at all, but just my idea :)

Edit: I've also heard trainers say that when they have a horse that won't slow down, they raise the jump until the horse if forced to slow down. I've never tried it, cause I don't ride nearly well enough to do that, and it sounds a bit... I don't know, inncorrect? To me, but hey. If it works for someone else that's great.
    12-31-2010, 12:00 AM
^wouldn't you think that raising the jump would do more harm than good? Perhaps the horse would think he'd have to go faster to get the momentum to go over the jump? That sounds like a disaster, I agree with you.

I would say putting a ground pole a stride or so in front of the jump. It sounds simple, but my horse used to RUSH at any jump he saw, and then flip out after he landed (he got a little happy). The ground pole actually made him think and realize he had to slow down. It worked for me, but I would emphasize control on the flat before jumping.

I'm working on the flat with my horse right now. I would try working on collecting his canter, then asking for a more extended canter, then back to collection, then to a hand gallop, etc. This way you really have control over his gaits and are making him really listen to you.
    01-01-2011, 07:14 PM
I found a good exercise by accident when we had a few muddy spots in our ring. Picture a clock. Put jumps and 3 & 9 o'clock. At 12 o'clock, establish a 20 meter circle either at trot or canter, whatever gait you choose. The trick is to have the jumps set up in a location where once you come off the last curve of the circle, you're slightly inside of the jump to where you have to leg yield over ever so slightly to the fence in about 4 strides or less. (leg yield part keeps the horse in the outside rein where he belongs and prevents an all out dart to the fence since he's not traveling completely forward). When and only when you have a nice consistent circle going, approach and jump the fence. After the fence, repeat the circle at 6 o'clock. Again, keep circling until you have the gait, tempo and speed that you choose, not the horse. Don't let him bully you into what he wants. Once he figures out he'll be circling all day if necessary, he should become more cooperative, although it varies from horse to horse. Good luck!
    01-01-2011, 10:08 PM
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Usually a horse that rushes does so because there is a lot of tension between the horse and the RIDER. The rider often sends strong messages of their fear/tension/distrust by doing things like grabbing the reins in a tight contact (surely if I don't, the horse will bolt and kill me...), Riding in a tense and stiff and defensive manner, and never try to diffuse the tension themselves. A hot horse needs a rider who can learn to totally relax their mind and muscles, even when they feel that they can't. You must trust that when you relax, your horse might relax too.

I posted this suggestion to a person with similar problems. My post is on the second or third page. Try that exercise.

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    01-02-2011, 10:07 AM
My horse used to be REAL quick at the fences when he first arrived - so what we did to slow him down was a series of gymnastic exercises. It teaches a horse to slow down when he has to do bounces one after the other and gets him to take some time in the air and think for himself before a fence.

Canter poles approx 2.8 meters before a small x to start, so he has to think and can trot into the fence. Make sure you try to keep him slow and steady and something he can jump without much effort so he doesn't get "excited" -- you can put up even one to two bounces first, both at 3m (eventually you will shorten this to a 2.7-8m spacing to create a more quality jump and once he learns to slow down between fences) -- eventually you will get up to 8 fences. This is also really good for strengthening his hind end and his thought process. Leave him fairly alone, in the beginning he may trip, lose his balance and knock a couple down but don't panic nor force him through anything big. You can even start this exercise with poles first and vary it up this way... then do very small x's or even one side of the pole up alternatively until he becomes more and more comfortable. Release, relax and use your voice also to say woah in between fences.

Super exercise.

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