Big Jumper? - The Horse Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 03-04-2009, 04:06 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 166
• Horses: 2
Big Jumper?

When sam goes, I will have to teach bomber a 17.3hh dressage thoroughbred how to jump, I am to small for him, but he is fairly safe to ride, I would like some info on how I can teach him how to jump, he is 11 years old, and here are some pics of him and me
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Bomber and Me 010.jpg (65.1 KB, 215 views)
Attachments Pending Approval
File Type:
Baby Doll Amy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 03-04-2009, 06:26 AM
Started
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,076
• Horses: 1
Lots of lunging over jumps (in tack nce he gets the idea) free jumping is nice too. When you are riding him, do a ton of cavaletti work wtc (two point over the top), then once he's good with that, increase it to a tiny cavaleti and teach him to trot to it and canter away, and build it up from there.
1dog3cats17rodents is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 03-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Eventing Country
Posts: 8,220
• Horses: 0
You can send him to me, and I'd take the challange :)
MIEventer is offline  
post #4 of 10 Old 03-06-2009, 04:52 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 166
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIEventer View Post
You can send him to me, and I'd take the challange :)
lol he's not my horse but thanx anyway
Baby Doll Amy is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 03-06-2009, 04:53 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 166
• Horses: 2
thankx guys, I've been told to do the same thing I done on sam, and to be confident at what ever I am faced at and not to over face myself,
Baby Doll Amy is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 03-06-2009, 10:13 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Eventing Country
Posts: 8,220
• Horses: 0
It isn't just about not overfacing yourself - you don't want to overface this horse.

Going with what you've already been suggested -

The horse has a weak topline and needs allot of work on that back end - jumping is dressage with speed bumps.

The thing with big horses such as this fellow, is that - they are allot tougher to manouver, allot more work to direct via seat, allot of time to tighten him up when riding through a tight course. Most courses at lower levels, are small and tight.

If his rider doesn't have the power and the know how - big horses can be allot more work. Trust me, I used to ride a 17.2hh Zangershiede - talk about allot of power, talk about allot of horse, talk about allot of animal to work under me. I had to learn to use allot of seat, allot of core and it took allot of time under saddle on the flat to reach the goal of having a light, manouverable horse under me - so that we could take that and apply it to a course successfully.

Big horses, are allot tougher to manouver through a course than a smaller, lighter horse.

This horse should be fine doing low levels - but he will need ALLOT of flat work under an educated rider, so that he can remain on his hind end, light and off of his forehand - to transfer that to a course, to remain light, soft and on his hind end. He needs a rider who can ride from his back end, leaving his front end alone - especially his face.

A horse this size, cannot be flat and heavy on his forehand. A horse this size needs a rider who can do this.

He needs a rider who can support him constantly, to the fence, over the fence and after the fence - keeping his back lifted and light.

Educated Flat work, Educated flat work, Educated flat work

Last edited by MIEventer; 03-06-2009 at 10:16 AM.
MIEventer is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 03-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 483
• Horses: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIEventer View Post
It isn't just about not overfacing yourself - you don't want to overface this horse.

Going with what you've already been suggested -

The horse has a weak topline and needs allot of work on that back end - jumping is dressage with speed bumps.

The thing with big horses such as this fellow, is that - they are allot tougher to manouver, allot more work to direct via seat, allot of time to tighten him up when riding through a tight course. Most courses at lower levels, are small and tight.

If his rider doesn't have the power and the know how - big horses can be allot more work. Trust me, I used to ride a 17.2hh Zangershiede - talk about allot of power, talk about allot of horse, talk about allot of animal to work under me. I had to learn to use allot of seat, allot of core and it took allot of time under saddle on the flat to reach the goal of having a light, manouverable horse under me - so that we could take that and apply it to a course successfully.

Big horses, are allot tougher to manouver through a course than a smaller, lighter horse.

This horse should be fine doing low levels - but he will need ALLOT of flat work under an educated rider, so that he can remain on his hind end, light and off of his forehand - to transfer that to a course, to remain light, soft and on his hind end. He needs a rider who can ride from his back end, leaving his front end alone - especially his face.

A horse this size, cannot be flat and heavy on his forehand. A horse this size needs a rider who can do this.

He needs a rider who can support him constantly, to the fence, over the fence and after the fence - keeping his back lifted and light.

Educated Flat work, Educated flat work, Educated flat work

Well said. I agree 100%. He definitely needs lots of flat work before you start jumping him anything above a crossrail.
Stepher is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 03-12-2009, 03:50 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 30
• Horses: 3
No rider is to small for a horse! ;)
Lol
I agree with the post above


There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse. ~ Robert Smith Surtees
Hillviewfarm is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 03-14-2009, 11:54 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Norman, Oklahoma
Posts: 141
• Horses: 2
I agree with above posters. Pyro is luckily a fast learner, so I only had to lunge him for about 2 weeks over jumps until he got the idea of curling up his legs and actually jumping. Do lots of trot-pole work... and NEVER jump for the first time under saddle over a vertical. Use a cross rail(I learned the that hard way -.-) because it looks more inviting to him. You have to build up HIS confidence before you move on to higher jumps, if you mess it up now, its going to be SO hard to correct later on. Until he is confident, you should not move on to higher jumps.



xpyrrohs is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 03-19-2009, 03:11 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 166
• Horses: 2
thanx for helping guys he is improving well
Baby Doll Amy is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Not just a jumper Spyder Horse Pictures 16 11-15-2008 01:59 PM
Hunter /Jumper chasin the dream English Riding 13 06-07-2008 11:53 PM
Young Jumper?? horse_luver4e Horse Training 12 11-22-2007 03:01 PM
Jumper KrystalDUB Horse Training 7 08-24-2007 01:44 PM
Jumper Obrien16 Horse Riding Critique 6 03-09-2007 11:46 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome