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    11-06-2012, 10:45 AM
  #1
Foal
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Hey guys. I have only been seriously jumping for the past... About 2 years since I got my last horse Bugsy. We are currently jumping 4' regularly during lessons but only jump 1.15m at shows, heh as poor stamina over A and AA shows because of the constant jumping. And im kinda getting tired of him flying over 4' and then knocking rails at 1.10 and 1.15. Is it because he's not impressed with the jumps and doesn't feel the need to jump as high?
     
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    11-06-2012, 10:55 AM
  #2
Started
I have that problem, but we've never gone to 4' and I don't plan on it! Hahaha

My horse won't jump under 2' unless it looks like a jump (can't be a pole)
Because she gets lazy and knows she doesn't need effort for something that small.
What I do, is I really ride and push her to them jump, and I make her jump. I give her leg and say "up" (just because I think it's fun and she likes vocal cues) so she knows I NEED her to go up and over, not just trot along like a lazy pony (:

Congrats on getting for 4 foot! That's crazy impressive to me! Haha
Hope that helps a little
     
    11-06-2012, 11:15 AM
  #3
Foal
Haha it feels like flying!!! And I always keep my leg on cause of his warmblood mentality to do exactly what I tell him. I just need a way to try and get him to pick his legs up a little more over the 3'3 or 3'6 stuff hahaha
     
    11-06-2012, 11:14 PM
  #4
Started
Gymnastics! Those puppies do wonders for picking up legs.
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    11-07-2012, 12:14 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Murcielago    
Hey guys. I have only been seriously jumping for the past... About 2 years since I got my last horse Bugsy. We are currently jumping 4' regularly during lessons but only jump 1.15m at shows, heh as poor stamina over A and AA shows because of the constant jumping. And im kinda getting tired of him flying over 4' and then knocking rails at 1.10 and 1.15. Is it because he's not impressed with the jumps and doesn't feel the need to jump as high?
I have some question after reading your post.

Do you do full courses at 4' at home, or just single fences? There is a difference between doing one jump at a height and putting a course together at that height.

If he has poor stamina, then is he fit enough to do full courses (of any height) at shows? Is he getting tired and sloppy by the end of your round? How many classes do you do in a day at shows?
     
    11-07-2012, 12:31 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by updownrider    
I have some question after reading your post.

Do you do full courses at 4' at home, or just single fences? There is a difference between doing one jump at a height and putting a course together at that height.

If he has poor stamina, then is he fit enough to do full courses (of any height) at shows? Is he getting tired and sloppy by the end of your round? How many classes do you do in a day at shows?
Yes we do full courses (practice courses due to limited jumps) consisting of about 7 jumps with oxers, singles, and triple bars. He has poor stamina because he doesn't sweat. Yes he does courses from 1m to 1.15m at shows and he gets sloppy on the last day of shows but still tries hard. I do about 8 classes at shows
     
    11-07-2012, 12:48 PM
  #7
Green Broke
1) Is he always sloppy at 1.10 or just towards the end of the week at shows?

2) Does he knock them with his back legs or front?

My first guesses would be that it's either a fitness issue (remember, you don't just get a horse fit by jumping, make sure your flatwork includes a lot of strengthening exercises like lateral movements, cavelettis, and if you can hillwork) or simply that he doesn't try over the little stuff. Do you use open front boots? I would not cover up the front of his legs if you do already. Some horses need that bit of sting from hitting a rail to be careful over fences.

If he's getting tired at the end of the week yes it could be fitness. But it could also be soreness too. What kind of maintenance do you do at shows? By time you get to 1.15ish horse should be on quite a bit of maintenance IMO. Do you pack his feet? Wrap his legs? Back on track type wraps/blankets?S Magnet therapy? Bute? Even legend/adequan? I use almost all of the above on my horses for rated shows where they're competing all week. It's a lot of work esp after a long trailer ride and they're stalled on concrete. (oh that's another idea, do you use pads under shavings for his stall? That helps one of my horses out a lot)
     
    11-07-2012, 12:51 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Oh I just saw the post about the not sweating thing. That can be a big big deal. I would address that for sure if you aren't already. That might make a huge difference!
     
    11-07-2012, 01:04 PM
  #9
Foal
I do everything in the best interest of my horse. And not every time does he knock rails but once on every 3 rounds he has a lazy rail or two. Yes he wears open jumping boots, yes I lunge 4 days a week and do flat work every day of every week with jumping lessons on Wednesday and Saturday. He is extremely fit. I have addressed his sweating problem but he still has difficulties which limits our rides and lessons to 1/2 hours. Bute is administered and he gets veteolin baths after rounds, he also gets his legs wrapped every night. I find it cruel to use concrete stalls so I always bring pads and purchase shavings. Money is no object when it comes to my horses well being.
     
    11-07-2012, 01:37 PM
  #10
Weanling
I'm pretty impressed you are jumping competitively at A and AA shows at the height you are after only 2 years of serious jumping. I realize you are frustrated about the rails, and that is why you posted. I'd love to see a video if you could post one.
     

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