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post #1 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 12:29 AM Thread Starter
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bumping mouth

Sooo I've been practicing jumping and playing around with it. IT'S A LOT OF FUN!...thing is,I need lessons and I will be working on that with my trainer but untill then(not sure when I will be learning how to jump as she does dressage and is teaching me that as well) I need some help!

I bump my horse's mouth. I let her have her head and then sometimes I forget. I don't want her to resent me jumping her so how do you do it..do you loosen the reins or do you keep them short but with your body forward?....Also,two point is hard for me on my horse. I feel like I'm putting too much weight by doing it..this I am currently working on with my trainer but I think I may be leaning to far forward...
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post #2 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 12:35 AM
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I don't know, but all I can say is that jumping well is MUCH harder than it looks!
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post #3 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 12:41 AM
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Loosen your reins slightly as you go over the jump. You should NOT put any weight on your horses neck! Just rest your hands on the neck hold some mane but hold yourself up with yours legs/back muscles!
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post #4 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
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Okay,I will try that and with two point....I just started learning so it's kind of hard for me....I will see if my husband can get some pictures of me tomorrow ...not sure what my lesson will involve since Gidget will be coming and she needs training so we are working with her as well.
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A great excersize is to go into 2 point position and back into regular riding position while just circling the ring. It will get you and your muscles used to moving that way. ex. go 2 point while at a trot or walk hold for 2-3 beats then back down into regular position *gently*. My trainer used to make me do 2point pos. and hold it for 2 times around the arena for ages before letting me jump or go over trotting poles, was hard, it hurt but built up the necessary muscles lol!
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Please work with a qualified jumper trainer to learn how to jump properly and effectively without hurting your horse. If you're bumping, something isn't going right, and you can start to fix that on the flat, then translate it o/f. At the very least, grab mane or use a neckstrap. Nobody can tell you if you're leaning too far forwards without photo/video. Working with a qualified trainer (especially since you're concerned about your mare) is the best way to learn the correct way - they're right there to correct you and tell you when you're doing things right RIGHT AWAY so that you can learn the feel for what's correct.
To release, you don't throw the reins away, you release with your arms. I'm surprised your trainer didn't drill this (as well as two-point) into you on the flat....

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post #7 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 01:03 AM Thread Starter
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My trainer is very qualified. She actually went to school to teach people how to ride. She use to be an eventer.

I haven't been jumping anything big at all..small,small jumps(8 inches to 12 MAX) but realized I bumped her mouth a few times so I wanted to see if I could get some tips as I have had a lot of help.

I have been practicing two pointing by just trotting around. I do not have an arena so if I try two point at a walk it's a bit hard as she wants to eat O.O.....slowly but surely she is becoming less of a grass snatcher.

And I didn't mean just loosen the reins like you were to do western pleasure status...
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You should really try to solidify your position on the flat before going over fences; if you're having trouble balancing over a small fence, that means that your base really needs work.
On the flat, work on your two-point - use your leg and hand to keep her from snatching grass or eating. You don't need to throw away your rein to two-point, so you should definitely be able to practice two-point on the flat in every gait without her eating.
Don't rest your hands on her neck, instead keep them a few inches above her neck so you're relying on your legs and base for your balance. Work up to a trot, then canter. If you can work in a ring (I assume your instructor can help with that?) - do w/t/c in two point without any reins at all, while airplaning your arms. It's hard, but that can really help with your base of support. Practice your release over trot poles, and exaggerate it at first. Eventually you want to keep a light contact while releasing.
I would stop "jumping" until you have a more solid base, and can release consistently every time without snatching her mouth over trot/canter poles.
Your instructor will be able to help you with whether or not you're leaning too far forwards, and suggest exercises you can do at home.

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post #9 of 14 Old 06-25-2011, 01:21 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you :)

You've been a big help. I will defiently keep to flat work.My instructor would probably like that as well as Gidget!

My instructor has a nice olympic size indoor arena and outdoor arena. She is going to be boarded there in the fall once camp is over so we will be really working on things daily or every other day with lessons.

Here is her website if you want to see.

Three Gaits : Summer Horse Camp, Horse Vacations, Dressage, and Jumping Lessons : Rogue Valley, Southern Oregon
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She cannot try to eat if you are trotting, she would have to be dropping her head, which you correct, and slowing, which you would also correct before she gets to the point of eating. If she is able to eat, you are missing cues that this has the potential to happen before it does. Your horse should be listening to you while you are riding and that should not be tolerated.

It is a great idea to practice your 2 point on the ground. You could then move onto doing this over correctly spaced trotting poles.
(For ponies, at trot = 3' apart. Canter = 10' apart. For horses, trot = 4', canter = 12')

A good cheat while you are learning is to get some of the purple/blue wound cote spray and before riding, spray a little section of the mane which is in the correct area for your hands to be, this gives you a visual area to aim for, and will not hurt your horse. When you are going over the trotting poles, grab that area of mane.
The downside of this cheat is that you could get into the habit of looking down and not look forward through your jumps. So just be aware of that, one quick glance or look out of the corner of your eye and then look forward over the poles.
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