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post #1 of 11 Old 07-18-2010, 01:50 AM Thread Starter
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Which comes first: regular jumping or cross country??

So I purchased a 6 year old arabian gelding who after being started at 2 was ridden solely on trails until I purchased him last october. We have started doing little cross poles and verticles but I was thinking that since he is more comfortable outside the arena, if I should just get him used to jumping little logs and such before getting him to jump with standards and such. So whats your opinion????????
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post #2 of 11 Old 07-18-2010, 02:23 AM
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I would suggest staying in an arena until he's got the basics down pat. That and find a trainer to help me, not something everyone wants to hear, but it's the best thing you can do.

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Wait, did you say your arabian was started at 2 years of age?! What were those people thinking?!?! Arabs shouldn't be started until 5-7 years old due to how they grow and all that.

Anyways, what Strange said. :)

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post #4 of 11 Old 07-18-2010, 07:22 AM
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I would suggest staying in an arena until he's got the basics down pat. That and find a trainer to help me, not something everyone wants to hear, but it's the best thing you can do.
Agreed, on XC there aren't nessisarly close by fences if you fall and your horse takes off. Where as in the arena the horse can only go as far as the arena lets the horse. Remember to have a trainer/advanced rider there when you do school XC though. I rode with a trainer alot of the time when teaching my horse too jump and always jump with someone around.

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post #5 of 11 Old 07-18-2010, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Ok thanks [QUOTE=eventerwannabe;694490]Wait, did you say your arabian was started at 2 years of age?! What were those people thinking?!?! Arabs shouldn't be started until 5-7 years old due to how they grow and all that.
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ya from what I have heard starting arabs young is very bad :( which I can understand as my 6 year old still has his "little kid" trantrums every so often
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if a horse prefers big open areas I start them over cross country type fences out in the open, as that is where they are more comfortable & will learn more easily. If they are equally good in an inclosed area or better I will start them in there. At my barn we have no outside inclosed areas so there isnt a huge difference between riding cross country or over stadium fences.

If you want you can always put some jump standards up in a field or on the trail to practice over. That way you can have the stadium fences along with lots of open space.

Why is starting an arab different from starting any other breed ???

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I wouldn't recommend jumping CC fences if your horse has little to no experience jumping these types of fences. The reason I say that is because if your horse drops or hangs their legs, you could be in a world of hurt.

I suggest that you spend time working on Dressage and Stadium Jumping. This way you can learn how to adjust your horses rhythm and how to obtain balance and solidity and security together and apply that over fences.

By jumping stadium fences, your horse can learn to respect them. If he hits them, they'll hurt but not as much as your horse hitting a solid fence would.

When the both of you are ready to move to solid fences, you will be more prepared, more balanced, safer and solid.

As Jim Wofford says, if you can't jump a stadium fence solidly and safely, you have no business jumping a cc fence. *not saying this is you, just stressing the imporance of establishing all the essentials first over stadium fences before you merge to cc*

What you can do, is set up grids and small courses outside of the arena, there's nothing wrong with that.

Do you have a coach?

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your horse is more likely to get hurt XC, espeially if they are green to it.
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Wait, did you say your arabian was started at 2 years of age?! What were those people thinking?!?! Arabs shouldn't be started until 5-7 years old due to how they grow and all that
So many people forget what "started" means... If her horse was started correctly and lightly at the age of two the horse should have zero problems. To answer to OP, I would start doing grids and crossrails, not solid XC fences. It's safer for you and the horse. Good luck and have fun.
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The answers here are right, deffinatley stick with showjumps until you have the establishment of jumping down pat. I mean it will hurt his legs if he hits a showjump but that will teach him to pick them up (it will fall though) you want to teach him to enjoy himself so take it simple. I see so many people rush and scare their horses out of jumping. Just think what kind of horse would you like to have under you whilst facing a fence that has been bolted together and will brake your horse before it barley chips, a horse that was taught to enjoy therfore is bold, comfortable and and confident or a horse that is scared therefore off balance and will find it very difficult..


Sorry that was Like an essay lol sorry anway I hope it works out for you. Even if you take the showjumps out of the arena just as long as the jump will give that's a good way to go. Btw how old is your horse?
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