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  • Bates cair deflate
  • How can i tell if my cair panels have deflated

 
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    05-11-2011, 11:15 PM
  #21
Trained
The thread is drifting a bit, but...

If my CAIR panels deflate in my AP saddle...if they died within 5 years, I'd tell Bates to replace them. After that, I'd probably just ride and see if my horses noticed a difference. I would be surprised if they did, but I ride with a Navajo blanket so I'm not exactly the typical English rider!

Mine fits Mia, but rides a little low in the front on Trooper. Today I took one of the Wintec white foam pads, cut it in half in the middle, and used the front half. Trooper seemed very happy with it (he seemed to enjoy trotting and remained happy when I rolled back a bit on my seat pockets while sitting the trot), and afterward there was no sign of a line where the foam ended. I don't ride my horses competitively or hard, so I suspect they could go for years without noticing a deflated CAIR panel. For myself, I wouldn't miss the extra bounce it seems to give.

In fact...anyone got a needle?
     
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    05-12-2011, 08:41 AM
  #22
Foal
Lol yes it's true they are a bit more bouncy! Also, I wonder too since there is foam inside of the panels if that is what is compressing the most to make it 'deflate'. Also, in terms of sending it back to Bates - anyone know how to do this without original receipts?
     
    05-19-2011, 11:43 AM
  #23
Weanling
When I was having the same problem when I was younger, my trainer had be get in two-point, then sit in the saddle while still in two-point, and then sit up...it kind of gets your pelvis where it should be. You should be sitting on your pelvic bone, not you seat bones. Kind of think about sticking your butt out if that makes ssense. And your leg should be slightly behind the girth.
     
    05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
  #24
Trained
Over all the years I've had experience with the Wintec Cair Panels, I've never seen any deflate or lose their consistancy. My Friend stocked her Tack Room with Wintecs for her lesson programs, and she's had them for, gosh, has to be close to over 5 years, and they are all still holding strong.

I still believe the OP needs to look into investing in a saddle that will aid her position, instead of hindering it. No matter how much work she puts into her position, she'll still have the same issues she has now.
     
    05-19-2011, 10:41 PM
  #25
Weanling
SO. The last time I rode, my trainer spent a lot of the time working with me on my position. We warmed up outside while she was setting jumps in the indoor arena but once we started jumping, she made me focus on closing my hip angle a little bit/sitting more on my crotch while still staying tall with an open chest. It was really hard but I think I got it for at least a little while! Fry was really relaxed and well behaved so I didn't feel the need to revert back to a strong driving seat. I didn't get left behind as much, which was nice! We had one refusal but that was because Fry freaked out around the corner at a dog in the arena... :p

ANYWAYS. I have hope that I can make my saddle workable for now, if I really focus on my position. At least, I pray that I can 'cause right now that's my only option.
     

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