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post #1 of 70 Old 02-10-2011, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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Double bridle in jumping

I'm wondering is that something common? Does it use at the competitions as well and what is the purpose of it? I've never seen anyone would do jumping lesson with the double bridle on until couple weeks ago, so was really surprised to see one.
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post #2 of 70 Old 02-10-2011, 04:11 PM
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I have a poster and it has a horse jumping in a double bridle with a flash. I was also wondering if it was common.

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I just changed to riding in one on a hunter, and out of a barn with 90ish other riders/students, I am the only one using a double at the moment.

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I don't know if it's common, but I have no problem with it IF the rider knows how to properly ride a horse in a double bridle. Many people don't know how to and/or don't care to learn and they think they can just slap one on their horse and have a magical fix and everything will be fine. That's when bad things happen for the horse and then I do have a problem with it.

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I really wonder if what you saw was truly a double bridle instead of a pelham. It's very hard to distinguish an all metal pelham from a double without examining it closely.

I personally wouldn't use a double on a horse used for jumping, but that's just me. I don't think the finesse possible with a double is going to be accessible while jumping a course. I have used a pelham, and would again if circumstances warranted.
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Whats the difference between a double bridle and a pelham then?

I didn't realize there was a difference so I am changing my above answer to--I ride in a pelham.

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^^ I agree Strange.

The Hunter/Jumper Coach who comes out to the barn I am currently at - most of his students are in Pelhams. You can always decipher who his students are, in the show ring when you go to big LMHJA shows.

The issue I have, is that he *I can't speak for every coach* does not show his students how to use the reins properly and indavidually. His students go around, using both reins at the same time - always!

So as Strange said - that's the issue I have.

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A pelham is a *single* leverage bit with a curb chain, ridden with two reins.

A double bridle actually has two separate bits, a snaffle, called a bridoon when it's part of a double, and a curb bit, called a weymouth (if I got that wrong, I hope a more knowledgable dressage rider will correct me) There are two reins, but there are actually two separate and distinct mouthpieces in the horse's mouth. It is required above a certain level in dressage (4th, I think.) It allows a great deal of finesse - for instance, you can influence collection with the curb while influencing direction with the snaffle. I have only ever seen them used on upper level dressage horses, but that doesn't mean someone isn't out there using them badly or incorrectly on other horses.

ETA: two reins does not equal a double. There are a bunch of leverage bits ridden with two reins: pelhams, three rings, elevators and some gags. Two *bits* = a double bridle.
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It would be EXTREMELY unusual to see anyone jumping in a double bridle at a hunter/jumper barn.

Both pelham and double have two sets of reins, but they are very, very different.

A double bridle has two separate bits. A curb bit and a snaffle bit. It has two sets of straps on the head, one for each bit.

A pelham is only one bit. This single bit has two sets of rings on it. One set of rings for each rein. There is only one pair of straps on the head, to hold one bit.

Pelham bits are relatively common in hunter/jumper barns.

Most likely what you have is not a double bridle at all.

The only place you are likely to see a double bridle, is on an advanced dressage horse, or if Bruce Davidson is - doing anything, and feels like using a double bridle.

For anyone short of Bruce Davidson, a double bridle is not something one ever wants to have on a horse if one ever makes a mistake in front of a jump, or that horse would start stopping, REAL quick.
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Thank you for clarifying Maura and SLC. :) Makes much more sense now.

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