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post #21 of 115 Old 02-20-2009, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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MIEventer (Trakehner): I would approach one at a collected canter. I know that may seem a little slow, but I am thinking about the upbeat, uphill, canter. This way your horse is paying more attention to you, and will most likely hit the jump more accurate. Remember to sink in your heels, and keep your eyes focused on something up ahead. But you probably dont need me to tell you this (I know you already know :) )

MIEventer: I am only a Novice level eventer. Although I am not at the most advanced eventing level, I have a green horse. Also I am booksmart (Pony Club), which is the whole reason I opened this thread in the first place. To share my knowledge from eventing and Pony Club, combined with the answers of others to help more people learn about eventing.

Spastic Dove (coffin canter): The coffin canter is very similar to the collected upbeat canter I was talking about with MIEventer. It is a collected canter used to help you approach and takeoff at the ditch in a coffin jump correctly. A coffin canter is important, because of the way a coffin jump is constructed- You need to stay calm, supple, and collected, in order to reach all three parts correctly and accurately.

Hope this helps! E
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That's actually a great question that I'd like answered! In the fall I did a pipeopener and there was a coffin/ditch (I can't remember which one exactly, but you understand the concept) at the base of a considerably steep hill, (roughly between 30-40 degrees) and I felt so uncomfortable approaching it! I hate ditches and things in that family on LEVEL ground, so the downhill factor didn't add any fun for me. Jumping over a trekhanner I'm assuming would be similar, but with the added obstacle of the log which would mean that you're horse can't be flat over it which would be even more challenging! I just did a little bit of my own research and found you're supposed to do a "coffin canter" to jumps like these. How easy is that for a horse to go from a gallop to that, and does this take a reasonable amount of training to achieve?
A coffin canter is not that difficult - it is all about you, your seat, your upper body, legs and hands.

I am proud of you to of done the research yourself! Good for you!

Here is an article for you - I think you'd like it :)

It is about keeping your horse on their hind end, backs lifted and under a controlled rhythm on approach. Keep the horse under you, while you remain solid and secure.

Although I am approaching a small Novice fence, it is the same idea. Solid seat, tall upper body, legs supportive and lifting. Put horse into check and then release to allow their forward movement.

This is where you should be on approach *I know it is a stadium fence, but same gyst*

Then here when you are a few strides out. Release, leg really on horse, drive from seat. Supporting while encouraging.

Then the rest follows:

Your horse, most importantly - needs to forward movement to get over the jump - you cannot approach tooooooo collected. That is why it is only a few strided movement.

The key is - 1) Don't look at the fence. 2) Pick your focal point beyond the jump 3) Allow the fence to come to you.

What helps me, because I hate Trak's - is that I imagine it as a Verticle Stadium Fence. Do not look at the ditch below....look beyond it.

If you are uncomfortable going down the slight decline, transition down into the trot, sit deep, tall upper body.
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Very good explanation. The riders position and the horses uphill movement was how I was trying to explaing my canter. I liked your key points. Looking beyond the fence at something else has always helped me with banks, traks, ditches, and other jumps.

Thanks for a more detailed explanation
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Thanks for the explanations! I'll keep that in mind when the season starts.
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Your Welcome. :)
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Just a random note from reading this thread. I LOVE the Trakehner breed. :)

And, I can not wait until Eventing season starts this year. I am prepping a 4 year old for this year, and am very excited to see how she takes to it!

Great thread. :)
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I cant wait either. I just bought a new horse in January and I am excited to get him ready for the eventing season too.

I get to do my first show with him in March! Its a Combined Test for green horses. :)
Thanks! ~E
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Does anyone else have any eventing questions?
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What are the ideal conformation traits for someone looking to do 3 day events?
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I know conformation faults and traits. I can name all and the movement problems they cause. But figuring out the ideal traits for certain desciplines can be tricky. This is where a reputable instructor or trainer is helpful.
I'm not quite up to par with listing what an eventer should look like, so in the midst of my LA/AH hw, I will look up an explanation in ye olde Conformation book.

I will get back to you as soon as I can,
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