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    11-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Green Broke
Question First Jumper show -- need tips! :)

So Sandie and I have only ever done Eventing...I know that the Stadium Jumping portion of Eventing is similar to a Jumper show, but more technical in Jumpers, more roll backs and such. Also, I've heard of a "Jump off" to break ties, but I did have some questions about Jumpers specifically since we're going to a show this weekend :)

1. Does the color of your jacket matter? I have a dark grey (with faded pale blue plaid) hunt coat that I was going to wear...would that be an acceptable color for a schooling Jumper show?

2. I know a Jumper round is fast, but can you go TOO fast? I know you can go too slow. My pony is a bit of a speed demon so I just want to make sure we don't go too crazy ;)

3. If you jump clear and so does another person, do they not use the time to break the tie -- is it always a jump off? And how do they go about doing the jump off?
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    11-11-2010, 03:52 PM
The way jumpers works is one, you don't need a show jacket...I usually just wear a polo shirt although jackets are ok. And grey color is fine too.

Two, yes you can go too fast...usually horse that go too fast can't cut corners or get nice smooth turns...also going too fast can result in a rail being knocked down, which is a fault and adds to time.

Mostly the division has a class that is timed, and if you have no faults you go right to the jump off, which can be done a little quicker. Most jump off courses have sharp turns and I think they consist of 5 jumps. Then the second class in the division is a speed class, that class there is no jump off, but you HAVE to clear the first 6 fences to not get disqualified, then any fence after that if you knock it down then its a time fault. Then the last class in the division is the same as the first, with a jump off.

Knocking down rails and refusals are both faults. 3 refusals results in disqualification.

I hoped this helped.
    11-11-2010, 08:51 PM
Green Broke
1. Color of the jacket doesn't matter. Personally I think it looks extremely tacky not to wear full show attire to a show. Doesn't matter if it's just a schooling show. Show respect to all judges.

2. Yes, you absolutely can go too fast. Just try to go at the same pace as a show jumping round in eventing. It's really not different.

3. Agree with the other poster
    11-11-2010, 09:40 PM
Green Broke
Thanks! Drew, so you CAN get penalties for going too fast?
    11-11-2010, 09:51 PM
Green Broke
I don't believe you can get penalties for going too fast, however there is an appropriate pace and one that is a little to "OMG". Haha.
    11-11-2010, 10:01 PM
Green Broke
LOL ok I gotcha ;) Well obviously I don't want to go so fast that we risk knocking poles or anything, but just wondering if there were speed penalties for going too fast! Hehe
    11-11-2010, 10:05 PM
Green Broke

The first thing you need to do is figure out what "table" each classes are. The three most common I see at schooling shows are...

Table II, Section 2(b), which is also known as "timed first jump off". I think these are the most common classes. You do your first round and then STOP if you're clear (or leave the ring of you've had faults). Wait for the buzzer and then procede to your jump off. You have 45 seconds from when the buzzer goes off to get to the first jump off fence. You ribbon according to the least number of faults, and then speed. So if two people go clear in the jump of, the winner will be who is the fastest.

Table II, Section 2(c) -Also very popular. It's also known as "power and speed". Somewhere in your course is a designated finish line. You begin your course (power phase) and if you are clear you -without stopping- begin the speed phase. So it's like one giant course but you start off more carefully and somewhere in the middle you should pick up the pace a bit. If you are not clear in your power phase they buzz you out and you leave the ring without doing the speed phase.

Table II, Section 2(a) -aka 'timed first round'. All you do is your first round, and there is no jump off unless there is a tie for first.

Last week at a show I did 3 jumper classes. The first and third ones were timed first jump off, second class was power and speed. The week before I did 3 jumper classes and each of them were the 3 tables I mentioned above.

As far as clothing goes, I'm generally a stickler for looking your best (my hunter background!) but at schooling shows I wear a nice polo (tucked in).

Define "too fast". There is actually a table that's "optimum speed" (I've only seen it at rated shows). You get faults for going UNDER the time given! But generally if you go "too fast" it means you were so fast it made you sloppy. I personally hate it when people run so fast and crazy that the audience gasps. Sure, you can get away with it when the jumps are small but when they get bigger you need to get your turns tight and get the "technical" details correctly.
    11-11-2010, 10:16 PM
Green Broke
Thanks upnover!! Here's the schooling show's website/entry form, so I have no idea which of the above categories they'd fit into, I'll have to ask when we get there.

And about the "too fast" thing, I was more wondering than anything...I don't plan on riding like a bat out of hell, since we'll likely start knocking things down (we aren't 100% balanced yet so we're kind of on the forehand as it is, so prob not the best idea haha!) :) But just wondering for reference.
    11-11-2010, 10:26 PM
Green Broke
Your welcome! Yeah usually they won't clarify in the prizelist, it will (should) say on the course sheet though when you get to the show.

Don't forget to take pics and let us know how you did!!
    11-11-2010, 10:32 PM
Green Broke
Oh, another way to remember your tables without actually having to remember them :) is just to look at the course sheet! For timed first jump off they'll have each jump in your first round numbered 1-10 or whatever. Then at the bottom it'll say "jump off: 1, 4, 5, 7, 10".

For power and speed it'll have every jump (1-14 or however many) numbered, but there will be a dashed line that tells you were the timers are, and that marks off when the speed portion begins. IE: between fences 6 and 7. So if you aren't clear you finish jump 6 and leave the ring.

There will be a marked line in all of your courses that tell you where the timers are. Make sure you keep that in mind so you don't break the timers too early!

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