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    07-19-2009, 12:53 AM
First time over 3ft!

I jumped 3ft for the first time today! We got it on video! I thought the jump was only 2'9" [which I jumped a few months ago] but we measured it after I was done riding and it was 3ft!

I have only been jumping 2' to 2'6" for the last couple months and we are just now starting to go higher again. It was awesome and Junior looked AMAZING going over it. Take a look and comment please! Keep in mind it was my first time at that height and I am a self taught jumper, critique and advice is welcome though!

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    07-19-2009, 12:56 AM
Green Broke
Very awesome!! Congrats!
    07-19-2009, 01:31 AM
Look pretty good for first times at that height; you were a little 'wobbly' at the landing, but otherwise, you both looked pretty good to me
    07-19-2009, 04:26 AM
Thanks guys!

Yeah because I had never jumped him that high I had no idea what to expect out of him. He has amazing scope and suspension, it was a real joy to jump him. He was jumping with about 4 inches to spare, silly boy likes to overjump everything. He gets a little full of himself while jumping and tends to try and take off after the jumps, which is why I only do an auto release.

I am hoping with more practice over that height the landing will improve, it is a rush coming down from that height, it just throws me out of the saddle :D I was excited cause my leg barely slid back though! On the smaller jumps it slides back sometimes.
    07-19-2009, 11:05 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by NordicJuniper    
He gets a little full of himself while jumping and tends to try and take off after the jumps, which is why I only do an auto release.
the video shows you doing a crest release.

Have you been working on keeping your leg from slipping back? What I see is a leg that is now too far forward with your toe turned out and grabbing with your heel. There should be a vertical line from your hip down to your heel with contact through the INSIDE your thigh/knee/calf. Your leg wants to go forward and roll outward. I am very excited for you to be jumping higher because yes, it is a LOT of fun! But 3" is about the height where you need to have a very very secure position and a very accurate eye (which you might, your distances were fine). If you were my student I'd continue at 2"3-2"6 for a while longer (I know people who stay at this level for YEARS before moving up to 3ft). Not trying to rain on your parade, just offer a little friendly advice!

You have a cute horse with springs in his legs!
    07-19-2009, 11:32 AM
While I understand how much fun it is to go higher and higher - but you are insecure in your tack. You need a very stable lower leg, proper leather length, functional heels, solid seat, strong upper body.

I'd stick to lower heights, and really work on stabalizing yourself.
    07-19-2009, 02:32 PM
Nordic, good for you but I agree that you should focus on perfecting at lower levels first then go back to 3 foot. I see you are just doing one fence so that is good. I would go back to lower fences and do small courses and eventually you will feel really confident at 3 foot.

awesome you caught it on tape.
    07-19-2009, 09:20 PM
Thanks guys. Yeah I am still doing mostly 2' to 2'6" we just wanted to have fun and try 3'.

I do have an explanation for the really far forward leg though. Junior is honest but only to a point, he likes to canter perfectly right up to the fence and without any warning whatsoever he will do a sliding stop and then spin on his hindquarter and toss you off. My friend advised that I shove my leg forward so that if he did slide to a stop I had a better chance of staying on.

I do totally understand where you are coming from. I won't be doing courses of this height, just single jumps now and again. I know I am still learning, like I said I have never had a formal jumping lesson in my entire life and have only been jumping for a little over a year.

Junior is a seasoned show horse, I wouldn't have attempted this unless I knew he could handle it. He is a babysitter over fences as long as you know how to get him going and keep him going and get him through the initial approach [if that makes sense].

I am not trying to sound like I am making excuses. I know I still have a lot of work to do, we are improving slowly but surely. Sometimes it is hard to do the lower jumps with him though because he is one of those horses that won't try unless the jumps are over 2'3" :D Silly boy, he was jumping up to 5' in his prime so he gets bored with small jumps.

Oh MIEventer do you think my stirrup length is incorrect? That is the length I have been using for about 5 or 6 months and they have stayed that length cause I like them there. But I wouldn't really know if they were wrong or not, can you tell?
    07-20-2009, 12:53 PM
Just saying, 99% of refusals are rider error. So more likely than not there's a reason he'll occasionally refuse.
It's definitely fun to jump 3'! But even with the horse I have right now, who has competed in 4' jumpers and schooled up to 5', I am only popping over little 2'-2'6 jumps right now. I want to perfect my position and stability over the lower jumps before attempting anything higher. Just because you and your horse can do it, doesn't mean you should.

Definitely keep up the good work though!
I'm not trying to be a downer, and with more practice over the lower stuff I'm sure you'll be ready to move up again soon.
And popping over one every once in a while isn't going to do much harm, but it can and will, without the practice over the little stuff.

Good luck!
    07-20-2009, 01:06 PM
I agree I don't want to be a downer and you have to start somewhere. However there is an element of danger to jumping higher than you are ready for both you and the horse. (especially if the horse has a history of stopping the way you describe) Accidents can happen. I had a girl ride my horse over a little bigger jump than she was used to and she ducked over the jump and banged her head right into the horse's neck and it knocked her out. She was okay but it could have been bad.

So be very careful!

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