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    04-20-2009, 07:57 PM
As someone who's never shown, I'm curious if this is just happening with the younger crowd, or if adults are now jumping this way too? I was thinking about trying some schooling shows this year, but after reading how political this all is, I'm wondering if I'd be wasting my time and money?
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    04-21-2009, 10:44 AM
There are allot of political aspects to all types of showing, don't let that scare you into doing what you want to do.
    04-21-2009, 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
As someone who's never shown, I'm curious if this is just happening with the younger crowd, or if adults are now jumping this way too? I was thinking about trying some schooling shows this year, but after reading how political this all is, I'm wondering if I'd be wasting my time and money?
I don't think schooling shows are as political. I have shown at a handful of schooling shows and found them to be very fair. I was at a show once where the judge was also an instructor in the area and she placed everyone very fairly, the first place rider/horse combination was a student of a trainer that she absolutely did not get along with. I think that schooling shows tend to be alot less political. Showing is definitely a special experience and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Schooling shows are fun! As long as you do well with the "hurry up and wait" lol
    04-21-2009, 01:42 PM
I agree. As long as you realize that there is some political aspect to showing, and you just go to have a good time and gain experience then it is way fun. I highly recommend it. And I'm an adult and my classes are all adults so it's not confined to the younger crowd. But if you were thinking about showing, do it. It's great!

I do put some blame on the coaches, for sure. It all starts with them. They are supposed to be the authority on the sport so we look to them for guidance and structure. I would not be comfortable suggesting that my trainer totally throw out her methods when I don't know half of what she does. We just trust that what they are telling us is correct. Now I read books and magazines all of the time to increase my personal knowledge, but still, she is my source for knowledge too.

I think there is too much pressure from some barns to pin and pin high. Certain barns around town, and I'm sure all over the country, won't even take new students or boarders unless they plan to show and have a fancy horse. This can be tough for the people that really want to ride, ride well and become great horsepeople, because most of the better trainers are the ones that want to show. At least in my area they are. I saw a lady at this last show riding her horse, warming him up to go in the ring and at the last minute her trainer barks at her to jump off..."I'm showing your horse for you this time!" She wanted to be sure that the horse pinned, and they did. Kudos to her...a pro...for winning against a bunch of beginners. ::rolling eyes:: Now that woman, who paid **** good money for the show, and the horse and everything before it, missed out on a learning opportunity because her trainer wanted a shiny bauble.

I love my trainer because her whole focus is having a solid leg. She always emphasizes how a secure leg is your base, etc. I just got the newest issue of PH and there is another article about having a good lower leg. It looks like this issue is being brought into the light more and more.
    04-21-2009, 05:36 PM
Guess I kinda hijacked this thread, but thanks for the input. I think I did manage to find a good instructor. She's in the same school of thought that I am, good base and smaller fences until we're doing it well consistently. I'm too old to be doing things recklessly! I had taken a few years off from riding after a bad leg injury, so it took me awhile to get it going again. I abandoned the whole show barn thing years ago. I just can't take that catty garbage that goes on, but I do think a few schooling shows would be fun. I hope that new issue of PH is waiting for me when I get home tonight.
    04-21-2009, 11:47 PM
Great post IrishRider - I couldn't agree more with you, thanks for adding that to this discussion.

You are right MyBoyPuck - it isn't the height of the fence that counts, it is the quallity of the fence that counts.

I would far wrather see a rider going over an x rail with solid equitation, than someone over a 2'6" or bigger with unfunctional form.
    04-22-2009, 11:53 AM
Thanks MIEventer. FYI, that entire new issue of PH is littered with articles about leg position and form. I finally got to read through it last night. One of my favorite issues yet.
    04-22-2009, 10:56 PM
I am glad to hear that you picked up the PH magazine! GM and Jim Wofford and others who are willing to take the time out to educate us at lower levels, is a blessing.

I absolutely love reading these informative articles, and I am glad to hear that you are too :)
    04-22-2009, 11:26 PM
Ugh, there's a post on the critique forum for a jumping critique. The poor girl is practically lying on her horse's neck and all the replies are saying she looks great. This perching thing obviously has a very strong hold in the hunter ring these days.
    04-23-2009, 12:17 PM
I wanted to bump this discussion back up - I would be very interested to hear what others have to say or what they think about this new "perched" form we are seeing in the show ring.

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