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post #1 of 8 Old 12-08-2011, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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gate jump/advice/conflict story

Do you ever just want to tell the other riders at your barn to shut their mouths? If they are not going to give helpful advise, then don't say anything.
I have been working on low jumps with my horse since April. Usually 18-24" cross rails and low verticals (less than 12"). I have slowly been increasing the height of his jumps all crossrails at 24" on the standard (which I measure in the center to right at my knee).
So everything else in the jumping arena I had set up as a cross rail or small vertical. I had one gate set up and it was right at my knee (maybe 18") so he should be able to clear it no problem. He had never jumped it before though so I let him walk up to it and check it out.
We do the whole course clear and get to the gate, I ride him up to it at a steady trot, straight on. He slams on the breaks and slides about a foot and stops right in front of it. OK. So I then make him jump it from a stand still since it's low enough and he needs to know that is not acceptable. He jumped it, but his toes barely caught it, and we went and did the cross rail 6 strides after it to finish the course. - side note- he usually runs out if he doesn't want to do something not slam on the brakes. I have been working on this, since it's my fault for letting him do so.

Anyways I was bragging on him for doing so well, and then told *other rider* that he wouldn't jump the gate though, but he never had done it before so it wasn't that big of a deal. She responded well he wouldn't jump it because he doesn't know what he is doing. She pretty much says this about everything I do with my horse. She never says I don't know what I'm doing, but always says "he doesn't know what he is doing".

I wish she would just shut her mouth, if she isn't going to give me advice on how to help him, don't just say he doesn't know what he is doing.
I'm working on jumping and dressage with him so he will know what he is doing. There's one good way to figure out how to do something and that is to do it.
I took 4 years of jumping lessons in high school, and I have had 3 years of dressage in college. My dressage trainer comes out every couple of weeks and I have a new jumping trainer that I'm going to start working with after new years.
I'm just ranting. I wish instead of saying he doesn't know what he is doing she would say, well try more leg up to the gate next time or I'll come watch you to see what he is doing, or something. If she would say well try "blah blah blah" I would be happy, but it's just negative. I don't think she would say "you don't know what you're doing" but sometimes I think that is what she is trying to get across.

I'm just mad. haha.

So what can I do to get my horse over the gate gracefully? I'm trying to think of ways to disguise it. Maybe put cross rails so they are set in the center to the height of the gate. Haha it would be like a filled in cross rail of sorts.

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post #2 of 8 Old 12-10-2011, 12:58 AM
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sometimes the crap our horses pull isn't able to be fixed "gracefully". I think you did what you needed to do. That's what great about small fences. If my guy slammed on the breaks at a teeny fence, i'd crop him once good behind my leg and make him pop over it right there. He's gotten good about jumping the "scary" stuff, however he will tend to look at the fence in mid air. This results in him literally jumping 3+ feet over the fence with his nose nearly touching his grith. hahaha!
Barn's are full of people runnin' their mouths. You just do what's right for you and your horse... everything else is just noise.
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post #3 of 8 Old 12-10-2011, 09:24 AM
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i feel your pain !! there is a 'trainer' [i use the term loosely, she claims shes a trainer, shes VERY scary and is clueless] at my barn who insists on 'coaching' me every time she sees me jump. shes an idiot and its really rude to do that to someone whos not your client ! ugh annoying !

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post #4 of 8 Old 12-10-2011, 09:44 AM
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I'm not a jumper so take this loosely :P But maybe he slammed on the brakes because before you just let him sniff it and whatnot without working over it. Personally I would have lunged him over it once or twice in a few minutes, then get on and do it praising him lots when we "got it."

But either way, I think it sounds like you two are doing good. But I have to ask, has your horse been in formal jumping training or have you been doing it?

I'm excited to see where you two get to! People who run their mouths at the barn make me and my horse roll our eyes. Usually I just smile and nod :P
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He himself has not been in formal training for jumping. I can't afford to send him off to get trained, so starting in Jan. we are having a trainer come once a week. He is doing really well right now. Takes off correctly, and tucks his legs pretty well. He likes to over jump sometimes of he gets excited, so we end up jumping like 3 ft. instead of 18 inches. haha. He is a great horse, but oh man is he stubborn.
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post #6 of 8 Old 12-10-2011, 12:55 PM
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Just like you said, you have to do something so you can learn how to do it. He can't read a book on how to jump! :)

Just keep practicing, maybe add some more leg or encouragement, like a light tap on the shoulder with a crop.

Good Luck!

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post #7 of 8 Old 12-10-2011, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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he did it! I left the gate and put up cross rails with it too, he jumped it, then I took them down and he jumped the gate from each way. It wasn't pretty, I really had to give some leg to make him do it and tap him with the crop but once he jumped it, he realized it wasn't going to eat him. After the jump was another story though. I let him get away with too much. He like bulges out and kicks out and then turns right about 2 strides after the jump. He trotted out and then did that<< and then cantered. I turned him to the left since he wanted to go right but I did it too late. BUT WE DID IT!
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