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post #11 of 21 Old 02-03-2014, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks :)

We will only be doing small height at the event as well, don't want to overface him.

Once he gets the idea of taking it slowly then I'll start taking him up the grades.

The bounces are a really good idea, I'm going to have to set ken up at home thanks :)
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post #12 of 21 Old 02-08-2014, 11:43 PM
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On approach to the fence are you keeping your arms soft and following as you attempt to half halt him? Head tossing with a TB usually is the result of locked elbows in my experience.

Also, are you staying up in your 2-point or sitting on approach? The former will usually result in the horse blowing off your half halt attempts.
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post #13 of 21 Old 02-09-2014, 12:21 AM
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Is your horse scrambling a bit before the jump and then jumping flat? It almost sounds as if your horse is so heavy on the forehand that he is having difficulty shifting his weight back onto his haunch. When this happens, he "PULLS" himself over the jump with his forehand instead of "PUSHING" himself over with his hind end. This is a very common problem. It is really improved through flatwork to lighten the horse's forehand.

I do a lot of jumping from trot when I warm up. It is easier for the horse to lighten the forehand at that gait. It is harder for the rider...but too bad

I also like to use placing poles before a jump, but I NEVER use them after a jump. If you have ever seen a horse land badly and shuffle after a jump, you will know how dangerous the pole after a jump can be. I was visiting a barn where someone was doing the pole after the jump and I cringed. Sure enough, the horse landed badly and stepped on the pole which then rolled. It was a bad accident and the horse was BADLY injured. I believe it ended his 3* career.

HALF halt and relax....half halt and relax....then jump. You must remain calm yourself, or your horse will pick up on your tenseness and ramp it up himself.
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When I'm jumping bigger or wider things than I am used to, I actually TELL my trainer to tell ME to breathe and relax as we are doing our courses at home. Its amazing how much relaxing helps both you and your horse!
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Thanks for that response Alison :)

I usually try and get him to trot over the fences but he believes he has to canter over 65cm, I'm defiantly not going to be doing that height in comp any time soon that's for sure, lots and lots of schooling.

I had another training day today and did 2 rounds one of 45 and one of 65, 45 he was amazing, charged at one jump but I collected him back and rest of the round was really really nice, didn't even look at the scary fill

Second round of 65, ah well was a different story, I don't think he really went flat, more just a lot of cantering, really really fast and not listening to me, warmup he was great but in the ring he just got to fast.

I'm only going to be doing that height at training rounds for now, and schooling at home and lessons.

I think I will start to use the pole before though.
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When I'm jumping bigger or wider things than I am used to, I actually TELL my trainer to tell ME to breathe and relax as we are doing our courses at home. Its amazing how much relaxing helps both you and your horse!
I was taking the whole way round being like breath, and we can do this Romeo, don't look at scary fill, go straight over lol I'm sure everyone thought I was nuts :P
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On approach to the fence are you keeping your arms soft and following as you attempt to half halt him? Head tossing with a TB usually is the result of locked elbows in my experience.

Also, are you staying up in your 2-point or sitting on approach? The former will usually result in the horse blowing off your half halt attempts.
I'm pretty sure I'm following him, I don't think we had any head tossing at all.

I don't do jumping in a 2-point, out XC I do but not jumping, I go into 2-point over the fence and release how ever much is needed.
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Can you get video and stills of your jumping? There may be some positional problems that might be contributing to the problem. If we help you recognize and fix those, it might really help him.
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I have some photos from last event, will upload them soon, I wanted to get a video but my friend forgot and took photos instead.

Didn't get any photos/videos of the 65 as my bf had the camera and hem doesn't have the best timing
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post #20 of 21 Old 02-11-2014, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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All these photos are from the lower height, in which he didn't really rush tht much, but from me looking at them I can see my position is shocking so when we get higher I can only imagine what it looks like.

Photos are taken by 2 separate people ap there may be double ups of jumps but from a different angle.

























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