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    05-23-2008, 12:16 PM
  #11
Showing
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Originally Posted by upnover
I'd be more concerned about how quickly they've begun jumping her at 4"6-4"9! Why in the world is she schooling that high when she's just now "ready" for the baby greens... which are 2'6!

My biggest concern is, what is her mental status now? I've seen a lot of horses that have been jumped too high too soon lose their confidence and need to be "restarted" over fences.

With one that has the potential for hte upper level jumpers, $15,000 is a little low.
Agreed, agreed agreed.

She's much too young to be jumping that high. What is it with people pushing young horses this much??
     
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    05-23-2008, 12:23 PM
  #12
Foal
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt
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Originally Posted by upnover
I'd be more concerned about how quickly they've begun jumping her at 4"6-4"9! Why in the world is she schooling that high when she's just now "ready" for the baby greens... which are 2'6!

My biggest concern is, what is her mental status now? I've seen a lot of horses that have been jumped too high too soon lose their confidence and need to be "restarted" over fences.

With one that has the potential for hte upper level jumpers, $15,000 is a little low.
Agreed, agreed agreed.

She's much too young to be jumping that high. What is it with people pushing young horses this much??
They have a video on their site of a 4 year old jumping around that height, too.

A friend of mine bought a large pony that was over jumped when he was younger, so she can only jump him a certain height and only once or twice a week.
     
    05-23-2008, 12:34 PM
  #13
Weanling
Man, they have four lengthy videos of her and they're all just jump, jump, jump! Makes me wonder if she's lacking the basics in flatwork. And that standing martingale just looks so uncomfortable for her!

And come on, if you want to sell a horse for $40K, invest in a tripod so your videos don't look like they were taken in a tornado!!
     
    05-23-2008, 01:26 PM
  #14
Foal
So you guys don't think she's worth $15,000 ?
     
    05-23-2008, 01:32 PM
  #15
Foal
All I want is a horse I can ride and have fun on a big horse..that likes to jump.. what questions can I ask her so I can post them here...

Here is some pictures of me on my old horse he is a 17.2 hand thoroughbred I loved him his name was shorty!! Shorty kind of reminds me of her.





     
    05-23-2008, 01:42 PM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by bowtiegoddess
all I want is a horse I can ride and have fun on a big horse..that likes to jump.. what questions can I ask her so I can post them here...

Here is some pictures of me on my old horse he is a 17.2 hand thoroughbred I loved him his name was shorty!! Shorty kind of reminds me of her.





Are you planning on showing in the Grand Prix?? I mean, if you just want something for fun, why spend $15,000? You can get a horse that can jump for way less than that.
     
    05-23-2008, 04:13 PM
  #17
Green Broke
[quote="Equina"]And that standing martingale just looks so uncomfortable for her! Quote]

Yea, they keep that on her so her neck doesn't go straight up in the air as she reeeeally wants it to...

Yikes, this horse is NOT a pretty jumper. It has learned to use it's body well (it has to to be able to get over the bigger fences with her knees hanging so low) but she hasn't learned how to raise her knees evenly and tuck her lower legs in. It's also not a hunter. It's a jumper. Possibly a very talented one if it can learn to jump well. So why are they asking 40K for her online, but offering her to you for only 15? Unless she's a close personal friend and trying to do you a favor, there's a reason she's priced so low (and you can't believe "i just want to sell her"). I wonder if someone came and did a prepurchase and found something major that she's not telling you about. Maybe she's just a really difficult horse to ride and they haven't been able to find a buyer. I don't know. If she xrays well and you have a great time riding her, you got a fantastic deal! I actually kind of like her. She looks like she could be difficult and she'll take some work (like taking the jumps down several notches and working on her confidence) but she looks like a really fun prospect that could be very competitive later on.

Questions:

How long has she been jumping?
Why haven't you shown her over fences yet?
What kind of bit are you using on her?
Has she had any soundness issues?
Has she had any xrays taken previously?
Is she on any supplements?


I would also suggest drawing blood for a drug test when you do a prepurchase.
     
    05-23-2008, 07:43 PM
  #18
Showing
She's jumping over 4' at the age of 5 - no thanks. I wouldn't want a horse that's been jumped that high that young... hello problems down the road!
     
    05-24-2008, 10:22 AM
  #19
Weanling
Welcome to the world of jumping!!

Horses 3years and up all regularly jump huge from a young age....hence you never see an old grand prix horse! They are all nakered by the age of 16yrs!

Most jump owners/yards feed balancers, joint supplements, and anything else they can think of to aid the horse. Its something they seem to do! X-rays will tell you more.
The problem is she can jump big so all they wana do is jump big...this doesnt mean that she has been jumped big all the time it just means that they wana show that off.

If you want her girl, then make sure you do your homework and get those x-rays, id also recomend a full body bone scan as that will show up any joint/muscle body problems well before they happen!

She's stunning! Just too keen to a fence and hasnt been told how to jump properly! Jump excercises will get her to wait for the fence to come to her, to make the correct shape and use herself correctly! All of this can be done! She is just your typical 5year old that has been jumped, way too keen! This doesnt make her a problem! Just means she needs to go hacking and get out and about and enjoy herself instead of expecting to jump all the time!

Elz xx
     
    05-24-2008, 01:31 PM
  #20
Trained
While she looks lovely and like she might have some potential I would steer clear of her. Especially at the asking price of $40000 that it says on the ad for her

If I was looking for a grand prix type horse I wouldnt even think about getting one who is jumping 4' at 5 years old. How old was the horse when it started jumping?? joint supplements or not this isnt good. Joint supplements don't fuse young bones.

Personally I would say this horse is close to ruined. It appears she can do nothing but jump. If you are trying to sell a horse as a jumper you also have to be able to show that it has knowledge of at least dressage basics but it doesnt appear to me that she even has this. It seems all focus has been on jumping which is very bad especially at her age. Without flatwork basics the horse can't properly jump the jumps/ if she makes it over its all her doing not the rider. Eventing horses arent reaching their peak of jumping until between 10-14 on average these days and that's a good age. Jumping 4ft now...terrible

I would ask how many other things are not kosher with these people. Anyone who is jumping 4ft oxers while giving their horse no release must no very little to nothing about jumping. This is another warning sign. Every jump the rider kept his hands in the same place as riding on the flat. I cringed every time the poor horse went over a jump.

I would suggest that you keep looking. If you arent looking at a grand prix prospect then $40000 is a lot to spend for a horse like this. If you want a big, cruisey potential jumper you could always try a tb :) whichever way I would steer clear of this lovely yet over priced horse
     

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