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post #21 of 35 Old 05-08-2009, 09:23 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more lovemyponies! Maybe she is a terrible rider and a terrible trainer... but we aren't going to know that just from that one picture.

And to add, the HJA presidents that i know aren't elected for their riding ability. They're elected for their leadership/organizational skills and capabilities of running a fair and profitable show organization. The president of the organization I'm an officer of isn't even a rider. His daughters showed extensively and he runs a show management company but he is a very very effective leader and thus an excellent president! i would say the best the state has had for many many years.
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post #22 of 35 Old 05-09-2009, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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I think some of you were missing the point of the topic. Have none of you ever read Practical Horsemen or other magazines where people critique photos so that we can learn from it?

And Im sorry but the "maybe the photo was just bad" is a bunch of bologna. All magazines have to check with the person in the photo before publication. Therefore she approved the photo. If the photo is "one bad shot" then she chose it to represent her to the public why?

We are just critiquing the photo and on the side we got skewed on how the certification process seems to be somewhat bogus.

I don't know her life story...Im strictly judging her on the photo that she most likely approved to go in a publicly viewed magazine. And in that photo I thought she had a lousy position.

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post #23 of 35 Old 05-11-2009, 08:15 AM
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Okay agree to disagree. I understand we post things to critique but I thought you were supposed to only post yourself or someone who gave you permission. Just because it was posted in a publication doesn't mean it was meant to be critiqued on a forum. Just my opinion. I understand posting videos/pics of horses others want to buy, that is different and even with those I think its better to not dissect the person who is riding the horse in the vidoe. (other than saying a stronger rider would more effectively show the horse off type of comment) Its really no big deal. I do think the discussion of the cert process is legit. However if I were this woman and saw a discussion started because of a photo in a local mag and all the unkind things said about me and my ability to teach, etc I would think it would be very upsetting to her. People post things on line and I don't think that makes it fair game to post it on here and critique unless its a for sale ad type of thing. again JMO :))
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by the way the critiques in Practical Horseman are usually people who sent them in to be critiqued and no one is questioning those people's ability to be a teacher. That is what bothers me, the basic premise of the original post was ' this woman is a certified teacher and look how bad she looks.' very different than discussing a submitted photo for critique
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post #25 of 35 Old 05-11-2009, 12:59 PM
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I'm not feeling the problems with the standing martingale. It fits properly and last time I checked it was the only thing legal in hunters, running martingales were not.
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I have seen quite a bit of debate on here about jumping with a standing martingale. As long as its loose enough and not impeding the horse I see nothing wrong with it.
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Standing Martingales should only be used on small fences. They do not belong on a horse if you are doing 3'0" or bigger - it causes allot of issues.
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MIeventer, totally respect your opinion and agree about it for higher fences, and certainly its best if you don't get used to "using" a martingale as a quick fix. I respect all posters on this thread. I just look out a little for the person getting picked on, just my personality. :)
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post #29 of 35 Old 05-11-2009, 07:24 PM
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Well, people critique all the time don't they?

You go on Youtube and watch riding video's - you critique. I critique. They are on a public location for all eyes to see.

You open up a Tabloid Magazine, you look at an annorexic star, you critique. Because it is in a public magaine, for all eyes to see.

When we look at someone who is in a leadership roll, we have the right to use our education, eyes and minds to evaluate what we are looking at. And on a forum, we have the right to discuss what we are seeing.

If something is put in a place for all public eyes to see. Any Tom, Dick or Hary can see - there is always going to be people critiquing.

We look at pictures of GP jumpers, in magazines and on the telly - we critique.

Anyone who is in the "light" for others to look up to, are in public eye - are left for critiquing.

So I don't feel bad about discussing this person that the OP posted, for us all to discuss what we see. Her picture is in the public eye.
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post #30 of 35 Old 05-13-2009, 08:03 AM
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I respect your opinion on this but I just thought we were supposed to only post things for critique of ourselves or someone that asked us to. I think its fine to post a video or pictures of a horse that you are looking to buy, (especially if its posted on the web for sale) However I just find the way this was posted a bit rude. I am sorry but its very possible someone who knows this lady or the lady herself or one of her students could see this post and I just find it a bit over the top. Its not like it was posted to give an example of a particular fault. The post is basically saying wow look how poor this rider is and yet she is a certified teacher, then the comments were about how there is no way she could teach someone to jump 3"6, etc.

So agree to disagree. I find MIEeventer and hotreddun both very intelligent and respectful posters. I know there was nothing mean spirited here, just an interesting discussion starter. However though I don't know this person I have to look at it from the stance, what if I did know them? I guess I just got the vibe from the warnings on the critique thread that this type of post is really not what the forum is looking for, just me, just stating my thoughts. Which is what the forum is all about. Okay said my peace on this :)))))
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