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        07-30-2009, 10:43 PM
      #21
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by morganshow11    
    I am looking into trainers right now I might have found one, I email her

    Sorry but you can't use that excuse again. It is old hat and with the events that I viewed on HGS don't believe you one iota!
         
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        07-30-2009, 10:49 PM
      #22
    Trained
    Ditto to spyder.
    I think we will all believe it when we see it.
         
        07-30-2009, 10:57 PM
      #23
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by morganshow11    
    I am looking into trainers right now I might have found one, I email her
    Months ago you said you were no longer going to use harsh bits on your jumping horse. You said you would do flat work only. You said you were going to send him to the trainer. You said.......

    But you keep posting pictures of you doing stuff you said you were no longer going to do. Why do you have any bit other than a snaffle? I'm more and more convinced that your horse isn't hot. He's a saint. Please, please, please get some training. I am scared you will hurt yourself. That's your choice. But I'm even more worried for your horse and the people around you who are likely to be seriously hurt or killed by your poor choices.
         
        07-30-2009, 11:06 PM
      #24
    Foal
    I don't know anything about english and jumping, but my mouth dropped when I saw you yanking on your horse's mouth like that.
         
        07-30-2009, 11:17 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    Omigosh. I have never posted on any of your other threads, but...

    Why in the world would you put stuff like this on here after you have said "only flatwork", "getting a trainer", and "no more curb bit"? It just appalls me. I don't understand. Poor Rowdy is a total saint to not run away with you or worse. I'm extremely suprised that you never mention any rearing. Any horse I ride would flip if I rode it like that. Be kind to his mouth. No wonder you've barely gotten anywhere with him.

    I'm not the type of person to pitch a fit about things, but this....it's too much.
         
        07-30-2009, 11:23 PM
      #26
    Banned
    FINE don't beleive me I don't care!!!! I know the truth! ANd I emailed her, I don't care what you believe or not!
         
        07-30-2009, 11:26 PM
      #27
    Trained
    I can't see the video at work, but by the sounds of it, that's a good thing.

    You can't dispute video footage of yourself.
         
        07-30-2009, 11:28 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by morganshow11    
    I am looking into trainers right now I might have found one, I email her
    Please try to understand that everybody is only trying to look out for your safety and the safety of your horse. He seems like a very nice and very willing horse. He just seems very leery of your hands, and he seems to act the way he does because he doesn't want to have his mouth pulled off with that harsh bit.

    Everyone is only trying to offer suggestions. If a horse is not brought up properly and ridden properly, it is never going to advance to become anything but a backyard pet, something fun to have. A backyard pet that is one day going to get completely sick of everything and hurt someone. In this scenario, that would be you. If you want to take riding seriously, please by all means do. But that means getting a Trainer to help you. I think you have the foundation of good basics, and I think you two could be a very good pair. But there is a lot of work that needs to be done. You have braced against your horse, as your legs have swung forward and no longer are on his sides underneath of you. They are pushed forward and your using your arms/hands to brace against your horse. Resulting in the yanking of the bit.
    To the untrained eye it could seem like he's 'just hot', but trust me, to someone who has been around horses (As a lot of these people have, including myself) we can see when a horse is uncomfortable.

    I have followed your threads, and really hope you do decide to get help, finally. And please trade in that bit for a snaffle, your horse will thank you.

    We are only trying to look out for you.
         
        07-30-2009, 11:30 PM
      #29
    Started
    Morganshow11, I keep writing stuff and then starting over. Finally, here's what I will say

    Lies do not impress us. Lies do not deceive us. False promises do not impress use. False promises do not deceive us.

    We are not being mean, unfair, or untrusting. We are being patient, helpful, and desperate to help you and your poor, kind, forgiving horse.

    Please, don't lie to get us off your case. Get professional help, or get out of horses. You are on a dangerous road, and the only place that road leads is a world of hurt.

    Please, don't lie, exaggerate, and make false promises. They don't impress us. They don't deceive us.

    Please get the help you and Rowdy need
         
        07-30-2009, 11:41 PM
      #30
    Foal
    This, my friend, is absolutely TERRIFYING.

    That poor horse..

    You need to go straight to flat work and get that disgusting bit out of that poor horse's mouth before he flips himself over.

    You need to seriously rethink jumping a horse in this condition. The reason he is running around is because he's afraid of his rider's hands! It's the only way he can get away from them!
         

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