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        07-31-2009, 12:13 AM
      #31
    Foal
    I'm certainly no expert but i've been following your threads for a while and feel I need to say something.

    I just got my horse 2 weeks ago and am taking it REALLY slow with him. He had a injury barrel racing a few years ago and still has some issues with his leg. Even though I wish I could go run him through a field, I don't. I know it wouldn't be good for him. That's what being a horse owner/lover is all about, doing what's good for the horse NOT for you. You don't seem to understand this. Rowdy needs work and so do you. Once you advance, so will he. If you won't get a trainer that can help you with your issues, you need to sell Rowdy. He deserves someone that cares about him and not just about having fun.

    Im the same age as you so I know what its like to want to just goof around but you really need to consider what you're doing to your poor horse. Someday you're going to be seriously hurt and I can't say i'll feel bad. Please go back to flat work and fix the holes in his AND your training.
         
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        07-31-2009, 12:34 AM
      #32
    Started
    Marrah - listen up, Girly.

    That horse of yours... he's an angel for not tossing your butt on the dirt, Missy.

    You better thank your lucky stars he's been so patient. The BEST way you can thank him - give him a break! Take that nasty bit out of his mouth! Quit YANKING on him! Quit asking him to GUIDE YOU THROUGH THINGS THAT YOU AS A RIDER ARE NOT READY TO DO! He is doing his very best for you - and for that, he deserves not to be assaulted in the mouth every move he makes.

    You are asking your horse to jump when you as a rider are not able to support him. You are asking him to run a pattern when you as a rider and not able to direct him. He has taken the direction into his own hands the best way he knows how. But, honey, he's only a horse. A young horse. A green horse.

    He clearly cares about you, or he'd have tossed your bum on the arena floor a long time ago.

    And I KNOW you care about him. ALL we ever hear is "Rowdy this, Rowdy that, I love Rowdy!" But SHOW us! Take our advice! Show us that you can put Rowdy's well-being before yourself. Show us that you can sacrifice your own fun for the over all good of your horse. Show us that you can exhibit the patience and compassion to be a horse owner.

    You have TOLD us so many things. But you haven't shown us one of them. You continue to yank on his mouth, slam up and down on his back, and then blame him when does not do what you wish he would.

    He is a horse, and as riders, we must understand that we are asking so much of our horses by even asking them to trust us. To halter them. To lead them. Let alone ride them. They are flight animals. They do not naturally trust. They are prey animals. We must EARN their trust, and we must EARN their respect.

    He carts you around and lets you indulge in your play time.

    Give that boy a break. Find a trainer or sell him to someone who will devote the time, effort, patience, and compassion that he deserves.

    We know you love him. You are a horse girl, it is in your blood to love him. Show him that, and show us that.
         
        07-31-2009, 12:38 AM
      #33
    Foal
    Why do you guys keep answering her and telling her the same stuff? It's always the same thing and she doesn't seem to comprehend what you're saying. Just let her threads go untouched, because, who even cares anymore. There isn't anything you can do because you're not there and she won't learn anything until she comes to the conclusion that she needs to go to another barn. (Like are you serious? Trying to move a heavy barrel when you're on a horse and when there's another one in the ring?)

    And she doesn't know what she's doing with her hands, that's why she hasn't answered.
         
        07-31-2009, 12:45 AM
      #34
    Weanling
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    Why do you guys keep answering her and telling her the same stuff? It's always the same thing and she doesn't seem to comprehend what you're saying. Just let her threads go untouched, because, who even cares anymore. There isn't anything you can do because you're not there and she won't learn anything until she comes to the conclusion that she needs to go to another barn. (Like are you serious? Trying to move a heavy barrel when you're on a horse and when there's another one in the ring?)

    And she doesn't know what she's doing with her hands, that's why she hasn't answered.
    Its because we are very concerned... and doing nothing and not posting our thoughts we will regret if she does end up hurting herself. Its better to say something then to not say nothing at all.

    Showing her that we are worried and will still be worried until she starts going on the right path I think is the best thing for her right now.
         
        07-31-2009, 12:49 AM
      #35
    Foal
    Well, I bet this is at least the 10th thread, and they've always said the same thing, and she's always said the same thing. She doesn't care. It's doesn't matter if you show your concern or not, she.doesn't.care.
         
        07-31-2009, 12:52 AM
      #36
    Foal
    And SHOCKER! I'm betting she hasn't bought a snaffle or called a trainer and that Rowdy wasn't ever sent into training!
         
        07-31-2009, 12:55 AM
      #37
    Weanling
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    Well, I bet this is at least the 10th thread, and they've always said the same thing, and she's always said the same thing. She doesn't care. It's doesn't matter if you show your concern or not, she.doesn't.care.
    Well we are here to show others a better way with our problems. I don't know about you, but sometimes its not always about the poster, but what others are seeing when they see this thread.
         
        07-31-2009, 12:59 AM
      #38
    Foal
    And I'm pretty sure that almost everybody can come up with the conclusion (without having to witness this monstrousity) not to do anything she just did.
         
        07-31-2009, 01:01 AM
      #39
    Trained
    She may not care, you may not care, but I care. I post because if I post there is more of a chance of getting through to her than if we don't.
         
        07-31-2009, 01:04 AM
      #40
    Weanling
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    And I'm pretty sure that almost everybody can come up with the conclusion (without having to witness this monstrousity) not to do anything she just did.
    I would say that most people are blinded when it comes to this kinda of stuff. They see a horse rushing over a jump and just think like Morgan thinks "Oh its just the horse's past and how he was trained". Again... going back to my other post... its not just about the poster, but our reactions are showing to others that this isn't what its all what it seems to be in that video.

    Morgan is blinded by what she is doing because all she wants to do is have a perfect horse right here and right now. She wants to be barrel racing and jumping 6 foot jumps with her horse today (and who wouldn't be?). She knows what hard hands are obviously because she has critiqued so many other threads about other riders.

    And like some of us know.... 99.9% is the riders fault.
         

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