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post #1 of 11 Old 07-15-2012, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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Help with horse rushing AFTER a jump!

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Tia has been doing really good with slowing down her pace before the jumps, we have been using poles before the jumps and also changing plans and turning her before the jump so she doesn't anticipate it. Her rider is doing a pretty good job of holding her to the fences.

Now Tia's issue has become rushing away from the fence. I have read that it is normally a sign of a horse that is afraid of the jump or is somehow relieved to have finished the jump. But Tia has never really seemed afraid of jumps and she actually seems to enjoy them. I have noticed that she really only rushes jumps, both before and after them, when she is being ridden. So maybe she is just uncomfortable with having a rider? She is still green under saddle for over fence work, and has only been jumping since late March anyway.

So my question is, how do I get her to relax after the jump? Would poles on the landing side help? I can't wait til I can ride her again (only one more week of pregnancy plus however long it takes to heal) I have attached videos of her being ridden in her most recent lesson.

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post #2 of 11 Old 07-15-2012, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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I believe that the head tossing before jumps is due to her rider trying to hold her to the jump. Tia has never been one to like people in her face, but she does pull and if her rider wasn't pulling back, Tia would be steplechasing all the jumps lol. Her rider keeps mentioning that Tia does NOT want to be a Hunter (the first show I have planed for Tia is a Hunter Schooling Show) and I keep telling her that its a good thing she doesn't want to be a Hunter since I want to do Eventing with her. The Hunter Schooling Show is just a start for Tia to get her feet wet jumping at shows. (I've never seen a Jumper class with 2 or 3 jumps, which is what Tia will be starting out on. Like Hunter Hack.)

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post #3 of 11 Old 07-16-2012, 07:50 PM
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My horse does the SAME THING. You could try forcing her to trot both before AND after the jump, or force her to halt right after the jump. You have to show her that there's nothing to be excited about.

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post #4 of 11 Old 07-22-2012, 08:51 PM
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Check her after the jump. Pull back on the reins just enough to let her know she needs to slow down. See if that helps.

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post #5 of 11 Old 07-24-2012, 08:07 PM
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I would try jumping a single vertical and then canter a 20 meter circle until you have a nice round controlled canter in place. Once you like the quality of the canter, jump the fence again. Lather, rinse, repeat. Once she understands there is more work to do after the fence, she hopefully will start listening to you instead of ignoring you and running through your aids.

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post #6 of 11 Old 07-24-2012, 08:15 PM
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I haven't shown in hunter jumpers in a very long time but I remember I used to halt just after the jump when he would get racey. I would trot to the jump and then halt after. I also did a ton of ground poles and cavalettis...

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I remember when you first posted a video of this horse over fences and one of the main comments was making sure the rider didn't keep catching her in the mouth. This new video shows restriction on the reins, so I am not sure if that issue was ever fully corrected and the horse rushing after the fence might be a cause of that.

I agree with Myboypuck. Work on the flat and get the horse nice. Once going nicely, go over one fence like it's no big deal. Immediately go back to the flat and make the horse go nicely again, then go over another fence... and so on. This means working on the flat for however long it takes before going over another fence. Don't rush it. Eventually the horse will realize the jump is just in the way of the flat work and that it's not that big of a deal. Make sure the rider is not holding the horse's face or throwing the reins away and snapping them back too quickly.

As you can see in the video, the rider barely has the horse moving towards the fence. Working on the flat and then throwing in random jumps will help. Right now you don't want the horse to just plod around the ring and jump the fence every time around. You can also work on this with trotting/canter poles and smaller jumps.
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post #8 of 11 Old 07-25-2012, 07:17 AM
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I have a simular problem with my mare and as an observation I would suggest that the rider needs to sit back in her seat both before and after the jump more as it appears she is leaning slightly forward which will only increase the horses speed. Also by sitting back (or more upright) her seat can be used more to help slow the horse rather than her hand quite as much which may also reduce the head tossing.
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Rider needs to sit back and needs more go for some of these jumps. Also, her hands are not as quiet as they could be. The head tossing before/after the jump needs to be addressed also. Especially in hunters, this will not be very favorable in the show ring. Have you tried a martingale with her?

When training OTTBs that rush after the jump, my trainer always has me halt right after going over the jump. Sometimes it's ugly, but it works very well for stopping the rushyness. You can also try going over entirely in trot. Come up to the jump in trot and leave it in trot. I know for the showring, you need to canter out of the jump, but while schooling, getting her to trot out of it may be helpful with the rusheyness. With both of these techniques, you need to try it quite a few times before seeing results, which means lots of schooling.

People always forget that a jumping course also contains flatwork, so when schooling for the show, it can't all be about jumping. Looks to me like this rider and horse need to go back and do more flatwork to get a good, balanced, corrected canter going consistently before heading over jumps.
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post #10 of 11 Old 07-25-2012, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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Hello guys! Thanks so much for the feedback. I have had my baby and will be able to ride Tia again soon. This means that flat work will be worked on more than jumping, both because I just had a baby and because I just took 9 months off of riding and I will need to rebuild muscles. So I agree with the comments on the rider, and I will be back on my own horse soon enough. I also agree with stopping after jumps, so if...when I'm finally ready to jump again, Tia still rushes her fences (both before and after) I will try the stopping after jumps. But hopefully all the flat work needed in order to get me back into shape will help her learn.

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