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  • 2 point horse with big jump
  • What's the bestway to jump a horse with a big stride

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    01-07-2012, 07:30 PM
  #11
Yearling
I'm going to also say that this may have something to do with how your horse sees distances. We have a lovely mare at my barn that jumps the big stuff... like, meter forties. But, she tends to like the long one. This is even with some of our top riders and trainers schooling her. It's just the way she sees the distance, and has resulted in some nasty falls.
So, that being said, I am a huge believer that we, as riders, make our horses what they are... but that doesn't negate how our horses see things and how our horses naturally jump. I would work some small grids where the distances are already well planned. Know what your lines are when you jump into them... ride a five stride in five strides, and then push him up and get four, or make him wait and get six... this will help you, as well as your horse, see where he needs to take off instead of chipping in and causing a mess like that.
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    01-07-2012, 08:00 PM
  #12
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Well, you've got guts for getting back on seven times. I would have bailed after about three. But, from what jumper people have told me, it's flatwork, flatwork, flatwork. If you don't have that down, you aren't ready to jump.
I jump a log now and then, but only on a horse that will babysit me.
I have no advice to offer except to say that it's obvious you have a strong will to keep going against these tough knocks, and that putting it to use going back to fill in the "gaps" in your training will be productive.

Perseverence is the good side of stubbornness.
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    01-07-2012, 08:12 PM
  #13
Trained
I'm not a jumper, but I'll recommend a couple of books:

Http://www.amazon.com/Common-sense-horsemanship-distinct-schooling/dp/0668026022/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325985032&sr=8-1
Http://www.amazon.com/Hunter-Seat-Equitation-George-Morris/dp/0385413688/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325985121&sr=1-1
     
    01-07-2012, 10:54 PM
  #14
Weanling
I am going to be honest, the picture did make me laugh...

I would go back to grids, and start working on those. I guarantee though, once you get your 2 point down, and you are in correct position, that your horse wont struggle half as much with his strides. But I would NOT be jumping that high if you don't have your position down, and if your legs aren't actually well, being 'used'.

Grid work will be a benefit for you and your horse, as it will help him understand his strides better, and let you start focusing on your position, mostly your legs. Do you have your walk, trot, and canter down perfect on the flat? If so, then you just really need to be working on your position. I find that while your horse is trotting, going into the 2 point, and just staying their while he trots, will help you get the feel for it, and know where the center of gravity is. So while you are trotting around, just go into position. When you are coming up to the fence, about 4 strides before go into position, stay in for about 2 strides, leave position, and then when he jumps, you kind of already know what position is right.

Pretend that you are squatting on the ground, and that the position your in, would you be able to do that on the ground without falling over? Or would you face smash into the ground? Find the center of your gravity. And work on grids! How long is your horses stride?

I would start grid work with about 4-5, one foot high jumps, place all the jumps say, 20-24 feet apart (depending on the horses stride). You need 12 ft for one stride, and 6 ft for landing, and 6 ft for takeoff, so placing them say, 24 feet between leaves the horse one stride, plus takeoff and landing in between. A areil view would look like > ~cantering| 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | But, if you come in trotting, remember that the first jump that you land, will have less space needed in between that and the next jump, as he is coming in at a trot, landing a canter, and cantering through the rest. So it would be more like > ~trotting| 20 | 24 | 24 |... and etc.

Once you can do that grid, with your legs working, and your position down, move on to bounces, which are 10-12 feet between (again, depending on horse) ] like > ~trotting| 20 | 24 |12|12|

Then move onto |12|12|12|12|

And etc. Master your position in these grids, and ONLY once you have mastered your position on the lower jumps, then move onto higher jumps.
     

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