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        10-24-2010, 03:58 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MIEventer    
    horses don't get to decide what they like and what they don't like. The girl that

    As I learnt from an Olympic Jumper, Ian Millar, when I cliniced with him eons ago was "A good rider conforms to their horse, a poor rider makes their horse conform to them"


    Food For Thought.
    As always, MIE comes in with an amazing comment Nobody could have said it better. I totally agree.
         
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        10-24-2010, 04:08 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    I know... MIeventer get them?
         
        10-24-2010, 05:23 PM
      #13
    Foal
    You really shouldnt force something to do what you want. All it will do is end up in a big fight and you wont win the horse will........
         
        10-24-2010, 06:41 PM
      #14
    Trained
    I have a gelding who was a super jumper. Won everything. However he maxed out and had a big crash. After that we put him back to small jumps with a friend - however they didn't mesh well.

    He doesn't enjoy jumping anymore. To get him around a tiny course of showjumps you need to be growling, have a crop, and he will still dirty stop.

    We tried taking him back to basics. We gave him a year off competing at anything and not jumping. He was never rushed.

    He just does NOT enjoy jumping, so now we just don't jump him. It is cruel to force a horse to do something it obviously doesn't enjoy or have confidence in.

    Don't do it.
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        10-24-2010, 09:10 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ponyjumper    
    horses don't get to decide what they like and what they don't like. The girl that rides my pony for me (as I am too tall) Says taylor doesnt like draw reins, or trotting crossrails, well for now on everytime she rides him she is to ride with draw reins and to trot cross rails.


    Only to a small degree. My horse would love to cut off corners or fall in, but he's not allowed to. How many horses would pick work over lounging with their buddies eating grass? Even if they enjoy work, they still LOVE sitting around and eating. Doesn't mean my horse gets to be a bum. My horses have never missed a meal, a vaccination, a hoof trimming, a vet appt when necessary... I take great care of my horses, in exchange for them working for me. IMO, it's a fair deal. HOWEVER, it is also my responsibility to treat my horses well when they're working. Some horses simply do not want to jump. They will never enjoy it. They will never be successful at it. I don't think it's fair to try and make them jump. There are other disciplines for them to excel in. It is also my responsibility to be fair and train in a way that makes work a positive experience so that they don't get burned out or afraid of jumping. Can a horse get past this? Often, yes. With very very proper and correct training a horse can get over the fear of jumping. Rushing, refusing, and leaving the ground too early is caused by pain, fear, or plain bad riding/training. If you're looking at this horse to buy, I would pass. Maybe it'll work, but there's no guarantee. There are too many good horses out there to take a risk on something like her.
         
        10-24-2010, 10:05 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Quote:
    I know... MIeventer get them?
    Umm.........what? Lol, I'm lost.

    Upnover - great post, but wasted, the OP is a Troll.
         
        10-25-2010, 09:09 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MIEventer    
    Umm.........what? Lol, I'm lost.

    Upnover - great post, but wasted, the OP is a Troll.
    lol... it should say where does MIEventer get them... I never even noticed that I missed words.
         
        10-25-2010, 09:16 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Oh! LOL - now that makes more sense :P

    I love to ride in Clnics - I find clincs are far more benefitial than weekly lessons to be honest. When someone who is a "Phenom" in the equestrian world, I have to go and either ride under them when they come into my neck of the woods, or audit.

    I love to learn, and when you hear quotes like that from "The Greats" they not only burrow down into your noggin', but they also help that light bulb turn on that magically floats above your head, and make you go "OOOOOOOH!"

    I love those moments :)

    I'll tell you what though, the 2 things I took home from that clinic, were the 2 quotes he said to my group.

    One being the one already posted, but the other was "Good Riders blame themselves, Poor Riders, blame their horse"

    Because we have to fix ourselves first, before we can correct our horses. If we aren't correct when we ride, how can our horses be?

    I <3 Ian Millar <3
         
        10-25-2010, 09:31 AM
      #19
    Trained
    Love it MIE, I completely agree with that mindset. When you have a problem with your horse, look at what you (the rider) is doing first. I think 9 times (or more) out of 10 the rider is the problem.

    That's been my experience anyways.
         
        10-25-2010, 09:45 AM
      #20
    Trained
    Absolutely! 100% agree'd! ^^^^

    It drives me bonkers when people blame their horses. I hate hearing "We'd of won, but Dude refused the last fence" or "He ducks out or refuses the fences" *just examples*

    I agree 99.9% of the time, it is always the riders fault.
         

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