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post #11 of 19 Old 07-13-2011, 09:27 PM
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However, the reason we don't see dime-a-dozen GP jumpers is simply the fault of the rider. It is our job to get the horse to use himself to the best of his ability, and anything less than that is a failure on our part.
i don't totally agree with this. some horses are gutless. my 17.3 Czech warmblood was sold to me as a meter thirty horse... and from day one he would much rather canter a delightful cross rail than even entertain the meter ring. However, my 15.2 mutt of a backyard cow pony is as brave as they come. he might not even be able to clear it, but he's gonna tuck as tight as possible and, "dammit, we're going over it!"

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i don't totally agree with this. some horses are gutless. my 17.3 Czech warmblood was sold to me as a meter thirty horse... and from day one he would much rather canter a delightful cross rail than even entertain the meter ring. However, my 15.2 mutt of a backyard cow pony is as brave as they come. he might not even be able to clear it, but he's gonna tuck as tight as possible and, "dammit, we're going over it!"
But isn't the idea of training that a horse does what the rider asks, even if it is out of his comfort zone? He should offer the trust - "You think I can get over, so I am going to jump" - and you should offer the leadership - "I know you can do it".

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post #13 of 19 Old 07-14-2011, 12:24 AM
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The b&w picture is of Snowman, a then eight year old plowhorse purchased off a slaughter truck in 1956. He went on to become a much lauded show jumper in the '50s and '60s.

I watched my 17hh boy cleared a 4.5 fence from a standstill. He was hungry.

I don't see your picture of Snowman here, but I about wore that book out as a kid !
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The official world record is 8ft 2in jumped by Huaso and rider, Captain Alberton Larraguibel Morales.

The (unofficial) highest jump was 8ft, 3 1/2 inches, jumped by Fred (Freddie) Wettach, Jr. riding his horse King's Own.

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If we're really going to have a conversation about horse's jumping abilities, yoiu have to clarify if your talking about a single fence or an entire course of fences at that height.

Most of my old school horses could easily clear 3'6" - 4" as a an oxer/last fence in a combination where the striding and take off were clearly defined, most of the same horses struggled to put in a calm, consistent trip around 3' course. The skills asked for are just different.

I think "horses can jump at least as high as their withers" is a vague generalization that loses it's meaning when applied to individuals. Perhaps its the answer this instructor has come up with after answering the same question year after year.
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I had a 12.1hh pony that would probably have easily been able to clear his height and more - he could jump 3' from a trot, and a really crappy one lacking in impulsion at that (not my crappy riding so much as his sheer laziness - it was all you could do to GET a trot). He was REALLY bold too, so long as the striding was ok he would try.

My 15.1hh Anglo jumped 4' within the last 12 or 18 months (can't remember which) and he will be considered 16 in august. I think, had he been given the training at a younger age, he could well be capable of doing courses at that height and higher. Single jumps like in puissance, I don't even know. He is a horse with enormous heart and athleticism. He was evented consistently, at a medium-high level (I don't know what it's called in America, but here it's called prelim/B grade) from 4yo to 10yo and then ruined by crap riding, left in a paddock for 4 years, and eventually rescued. I bought him from his rescuer. I have had a few people tell me they remember him from his younger days. He is the horse that has that 'x-factor' that makes the difference between a C-grader and a B- to A-grader. Could he jump more than his own height? Frankly, I've no idea. He is considered 'small' for a showjumper as here they tend to be 16hh+.
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My 14 hh Aqha cant jump a coarse more than 3', in her current condition (fat, and starting work) but last weekend she cantered and jumped our 4'2" fence no problem then just trotted off.
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I don't see your picture of Snowman here, but I about wore that book out as a kid !
Sorry about being to vague. I was speaking of the b&w picture in ErikaLynn's post. I wore out my Snowman book as well!

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Maybe the trainer means every horse (unless some other issue is present like terrible conformation or soundness issues) physically can jump as high as their withers? That sounds right in my mind.

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