My friend has this beautiful thoroughbred 16.3 hands. today she was jumping him an he was gorgeous! I thin she jumped him 3' and he cleared it. Well she said by next week she would reach the top of my standard jumps which is like 3'9 maybe 4. she has never jumped that high but the horse has. Im afraid she will over jump him. i was worried about it when she started warming him up over the 3' foot!
also my horse is a quarter horse cross maybe a appendix 15.3. He is fat now due to three weeks off with an abscess. He is ridable again yay. I last started jumping him at 2'3! he has never jumped before and that was his first vertical! i was going to jump 2'6 before he got lame at show. well my friend starting point is as high as i want to jump with him. i saw a few cracks on his front hooves which aren't much but the fairer is coming in two weeks. My goal is to jump 2'9 or 3 and I'm done. I think jumping any higher is not fair to my horse and I won't be schooling that high so why bother. I will admit i was envious of my friends horse and it got me thinking of mine. Here is some pictures of him at his mostly fit stage. PLEASE READ CAPTIONS UNDERNEATH
my release is not good i know. He looks really stockey in this picture due to the angle. This jump is 2'. I have jumped him 2'3
conformation
my face is funky :p again sucky release
another conformation shot. at his first show. the chain is bad...it was not on him the whole time. i took it off right after the picture was taken lol.
so what do you thin of my horse? and opinion on my friends horse. im not trying to stop her im just scared that something bad could happen to her horse! he landed hard today when she was jumping and that was warmup!
I like your horse. He's a cutie. The only thing I would mention is I was always taught to never tie with a stud chain over the nose as if they pull back it could get ugly.
As far as the friend, it depends on her and the horse and how athletic/experienced they are. 3' warm ups and jumping 4' aren't a huge deal to someone who has the proper training and knows what they're doing. To me they're terrifying... I stick to about 2'6.
If she's just trying to see how high she can jump him, that's probably not good if she's never done it herself and doesn't have someone working with her.
Your horse is cute. I agree, please do not tie using the stud chain like that. Very scary.
Your problem is not so much your release but your lack of a base of support. You are jumping ahead and your leg has slid back, it is hard to not have your elbows sticking out when all that other stuff is going wrong. You might want to stick to smaller jumps until you get a better base of support.
As far as your friends horse goes, I am not sure there is much you can do.
yes my position is not the best. he over jumped and i was not prepared since we jump smaller jumps her gets lazy as seen in the picture below..
even here my leg swung back....:/ but i was not all over his neck. i was a little bit more prepared. i do a lot better in my lessons since im prone to snapping up and jumping ahead. may i mind you i never get left behind due to this haha :p but my horse is a little green and i was used to lesson horses that held their own over jumps. i get a feeling that i have to lift up my horse but my trainer says i dont have too. another flaw. why do jumping positions have to be so complicated lol if any of you have had the flaws that i have, how did you over come them and stop doing them? thanks
and as far as my friend goes, she said she has jumped to 3'6. her horse is 10 years and was gelded at seven so he is a hyper little horse! but one of th jumps he landed hard and stopped like a reiner. that was at 3'. i just dont want him or her to get lame just to see how high he can jump. he is definetly not a hunter due to his crazy reactions with jumps but he could be eq. or jumpers. i just want either of them to get hurt! i know it is none of my business but i dont think it is worth having your horse be lame for a year because he was jumped to high and much. how high would you jump your horses and how often do you jump? what is a ok limit? and is it true is you jump your horse too high or too much when he is younger he is more prone to arthritis? myth or fact? thanks i just wanna make sure she wont kill herself!
A horse only has so much jump in them. You over jump them, they will break down. There are studdies that have been done discussing this very topic, and due to the shock and the impact that the horses front legs incur when they land off of a fence, breaks down their joints slowly.
Every fence they have to push off of, breaks down their hocks slowly.
I jump only once a week, but that's my personal choice.
Height means diddly squat to me personally. There are people who jump "big" who shouldn't be, and there are people who wont jump over 2'9" who are impecable riders.
It isn't the height of the fence that matters, it is the quallity of the fence that does.
My trainer said almost this exact thing at my last lesson. I agree compleatly though, I would rather look great over my little 2'3-2'6 lol then look awful and be dangerous over 3' and so on.
I think if you and your horse are ready to progress to a higher height, then go for it. But by judging by your pictures, I don't think you are ready to jumper higher just yet. You should be 100% comfortable and confident in yourself and your horse over small fences first.
As for your friend, if she is ready to jump 4 feet then fine, it doesn't matter if her horse has done it before, if her form is not correct and if she is unsure or nervous, or anything then she shouldn't not be jumping 4 feet. If anything goes wrong then she could ruin that horse. Also she could damage her confidence and the horse's confidence.
He's a nice looking horse. He's put together well for jumping. His back is bit long, but you're not planning on jumping the moon, so it shouldn't be an issue. You do need to secure your lower leg before moving up to bigger stuff, but then you already know that. Lots of gymnastics will help you secure your leg and your horse work on his form. A great exercise is 2 or 3 crossrails set 9' apart. Your job is to get your horse straight to the jumps and do nothing but release and hold your 2 point position while your horse handles the jumping, and ride straight out.
As for your friend, it's her horse. As others said, it's relative. Some of us warm up over crossrails and move onto 2' verticals. Others warm up over fences that would scare the crap out of some of us, but it's perfectly normal for them. Hopefully regardless of height, your friend will restrict her jumping to 2 days a week tops.
Thank you for that input i was going to do the exact same thing. And as far as my friend...she loves her horse and they are perfect i just didnt want him to get hurt which he probably wont.
i rode a huge foundation quarter horse in the jumpers. he was pretty awkward... but we did the 3 foot jumpers without a second thought.
also... i told my trainer that i only wanted to be doing the 3 foot jumpers and nothing more. but i bought my warmblood in september, and now we're schooling 3'9". trust me, you may say you're stopping at the low 3's... but you'll find yourself chasing the height, the challenge, and the adrenaline.
Totally agree with this xD
I used to be terrified of 2' jumps, mostly because my old trainer threw too much at me too fast, and even though she was a supposed "H/J" trainer, she had me kick the horse up as fast as she could canter to do the jump courses?? Idk. There were a lot of not so great things about that barn, and we no longer ride/board there anyways.
I used to even pretend I was sick or couldn't breathe or some random excuse so that I wouldn't have to jump with her. Not to mention, the horse she had me ride would throw a bucking fit every time you tried to get her moving again once you were at a halt.
I never ever thought I would want to go past 2' jumps when I was at that barn.
She wouldn't let us jump unless she was in the ring with us, so unless I was in a lesson, I got no other practice. My friend and I used to go hack out on the trails and make jumps out of logs on the straightaway to practice on, which really helped with my striding.
That said, now that I have Beau and I was the one who taught him to jump, and after we moved to a different barn where the trainer was very patient with us and my (somewhat less) fear of jumps, plus being able to jump whenever we wanted, lesson or not, we are now consistently jumping 2'6 and schooling up to 3' on my foundation bred QH :P
Or at least, we were back when I was still at that barn with the arena and jumps to use :P
Proof!
This jump was somewhere around 2'9.. although it doesn't look it. We measured it with a tape
Judging by this picture, it looks to me like we'd easily be able to go higher.. << >> *sneaks off to find jump materials*
wow he is georgous thank you!!! my horse loves to jump we even had a horse physic come out and thats what she said. but anyways i have jumped him up to 2'6 with room to spare! My trainer said he could probably do 3 but said i should stay aroung the 2'3 2'6 in shows or it could be too much for him. but thats a cool looking jump! it looks higher than 2'9
Pretty much any horse/pony can jump 3 ft - its really not that high for them - they just have to lift their feet up....
but in saying that just jump whatever height you are comfortable with - its nice to have something to aim at.. but theres no hurry - you will find that you will end up with a much more secure seat if you move up when youare ready for it
yes im just sticking to the low jumps for now. I will not compete at that height i just know that my boy has the potential...but he does not think he does. I want to build his cofidence in jumping. he refused a 2'3 2'6 crosrail today....yet he does not like cross-rails for some reason :P if every horse can jump 3 then he has no excuse...i cant free jump him because he wont do it unless i jump it with him. any ideas? lol and i have to work on my position also.
Hi there, im from the uk, but i agree with most the posts on here, i do have a horse similiar build to yours and i jump him once a week when the weather permits, i have had him jumping 5 bar gates etc i jumped him round a big course couple months back the 2 highest been 4'9 but majority the time i keep to around 3' as thats mainly the height i compete at and feel this is his comfortable height, i do think if you know your horse well you can tell when is good and when to stop
In my experience, its not the people who jump high that ruin their horses but the people who jump too often. When I had my previous horse I would jump heights maybe once a week, and might do low caveletti type grids on another day.
I don't know your friend and their horse, but I wouldn't be worried about the height they are jumping.
I notice in your pictures you seem to be bracing a lot, practice doing low grids and lots of two point position. I don't see any reason your horse won't be able to jump 3ft or higher but make sure you have the correct training and experience. In my experience horses don't often refuse jumps because they don't want to jump but because either the rider is hesitant or doesn't set it up right. Make sure your horse has appropriate striding, positioning and that you are riding him for the jump.
If you horse doesnt like cross poles the key is to jump them alot - make sure you always include them whenever you jump.
They dont have to be high just there - make it so you are comfortable with them so you in turn give your horse confidence as that is the key
if you arent wanting to compete at that height - theres no hurry just stick to what you are comfortable with and then move up slowly...
I use to have a barrier jumping over 3ft until someone said to me the horse doesnt realise the jumps gone up 5 cms.. shes only picking up on you and its so true...
take your time and dont put too much pressure on yourself to go high soon - remember to have FUN!
Grids are great exercises as they set the horse up for the jump at the right take off point so you can pretty much jump on a long rein - not only will it build up your confidence (And your horses) but it will also allow you to work on your position
well its not that he hates them but he doesnt like the way they are shaped. her prefers the verticals he did end up jumping it i made sure. for now i am staying to the lower jumps for now. i am not going to jump any higher since i myself am not comfortable and my horse wont jump anything higher than 2'6 for now. thank you for the advice
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