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        03-24-2011, 09:17 PM
      #11
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    We just worked on striding last lesson. My instructor had me pick an impulsive canter that I liked, and stick to that canter all the way to the jump, then try to judge the last three strides. Since I cannot see them so far out, I have to add or take a stride within those 3 strides I see, so I have to rely on instincts, there is no time to think! ;)

    My instructor can see an insane amount of strides! So that helps :)
         
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        03-25-2011, 12:24 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Lines are easy for me. When I jump in, I know if I need to hold, push, or just stay steady. I can judge the length of my horses stride and know what needs to be done. I can consistently see from 3 strides out, sometimes more. When it's longer than that, I often times can't really say there is X number of strides, but I can somehow sense that we are in the correct spot. I am lucky, though, that the horse I am showing is one that is super adjustable but really know his job. He will easily let me take control of his stride/spot and will listen with no problems, but if for some reason I can't find a distance I can just let him "hunt" the jump and he will find the right spot without taking advantage of the situation. That is invaluable to me on occasion, especially as I have a tendency to over think things frequently. As my trainer says, don't think, just ride (another reason she doesn't let me count number of stries - you count a rhythm of one two one two but no more than that as I would be obsessed with getting in the number I thought it was even if it was wrong)
         
        03-25-2011, 12:30 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    I just wanted to add in that it is a wonderful feeling to come out of a turn and be looking down a line and just see you spot. The first time it happened was so thrilling, and now that it is happening consistently for me on horses whose strides I am familiar with is even better. It took forever, but is so worth it. And to me, having a good consistent rhythm and a nice balanced turn makes everything so much easier.
         
        03-25-2011, 12:36 AM
      #14
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    Thats awesome! My instructor told me one day I will go out there and it will just hit me :)

    I find that it helps for me not to think either, and just let my instincts control me! I found out last lesson that I know way more than I think. To me it kind of feels like "zoning out" so I'm not really thinking, just doing. When I'm in the zone, I can't even tell you what I'm looking at a bit before and over the jump, my eyes are kind of unseeing/unfocused and I just feel instead.
         
        03-25-2011, 02:17 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    Eliz, does your trainer count with you? That seemed to help with me a lot. I'm a SUPER visual learner... so when my trainer would say this is a six stride line, but I want you to ride it in five... then it made me think about what I was going to ask of my horse. I ride the jumpers so I try and buy space and strides where ever I can... but I need it to be educated and safe. So striding is imperative.
         
        03-25-2011, 11:04 PM
      #16
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    Yes, she helps with some and she lets me count myself as well. I am the type of person that can have something explained a million times, but not fully understand it until I can do it myself.
         
        03-25-2011, 11:28 PM
      #17
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    I have been jumping most of my life. I agree with much of what Strange posted.

    The key to effective jumping (not hunters) is knowing what is needed to ride a certain jump or string of jumps well. Notice I say string and not lines, here? Jumps are all tied together, not just the "lines".

    Does the horse need a longer stride to make a longer jump (water) or does it need a shorter more engaged stride to do a large and tight vertical? Does it need gas for a huge oxer? A true jumper has to have a hugely adjustable stride...not just the standard onetime type of stride.

    You need to know your course, know what demands are being asked of your horse to bring them in with the best stride/balance/engagement possible to give the horse the tools to do it well. As a rider, you need to be able to influence every inch of your horse's stride to get them there correctly. Micromanaging? No, just doing your job. You are not always fussing....you know ahead of time, through walking the course MANY times, what is needed from one jump to another.

    There is no easy "I see the jump in ___number of strides, IMHO.
         
        03-26-2011, 12:17 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    I can see striding between lines or two jumps fairly easily, but I have trouble with distance to first fence. Hence why my timing is off when I do just one jump by myself. It's very hard for me because I'm a micromanager and I'm constantly adjusting speed etc..I micromanage in other aspects of my life too. It's is bad and I'm working on it but it's hard to not to..
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    Seeing all your posts about how bad it is makes me go 'uggghh gotta work on that!'
         
        03-26-2011, 03:06 PM
      #19
    Trained
    Why does effective jumping exclude hunters ?
         
        03-26-2011, 05:38 PM
      #20
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
    why does effective jumping exclude hunters ?

    Hunters offer fairly easy courses with "prescribed" striding. It does not offer the complexity of the jumper courses. Jumpers uses difficult turns, off striding, jumps on sharply turning lines, water jumps that take very different striding, BIG jumps etc etc etc.

    Hunters takes talent, however. The need to ride calm, courses with good tempo is very hard, too. They just offer different demands.

    This is just my opinion.
         

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