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How many strides out can you judge a distance?

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  • Counting strides between jumps
  • How do you work out the distance of the horses stride between each jump

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    04-03-2011, 08:57 PM
  #31
Green Broke
Hmmm, to be honest I work the other way around.

I will walk the course a couple of times, work out how to pace/approach each jump and then TELL my horse how many strides to take between fences.

I.e. I may choose between 7 short strides and 5 long strides, depending on if the jump is an oxer or an upright.

So to me, I am not trying to pick strides a certain distance from the jump, I am counting down from a known number if that makes sense.
     
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    04-03-2011, 08:59 PM
  #32
Trained
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Originally Posted by sarahver    
Hmmm, to be honest I work the other way around.

I will walk the course a couple of times, work out how to pace/approach each jump and then TELL my horse how many strides to take between fences.

I.e. I may choose between 7 short strides and 5 long strides, depending on if the jump is an oxer or an upright.

So to me, I am not trying to pick strides a certain distance from the jump, I am counting down from a known number if that makes sense.
That works in theory, but what if you have set numbers in your head and then take the very first jump long? Doesn't that throw your whole round off right there?
     
    04-03-2011, 09:00 PM
  #33
Green Broke
Sure does! Hence the need to know beforehand what your options are.

ETA: If you take one jump long it only changes your striding between that fence and the next as you adjust your incorrect landing so as to set up the perfect approach for the next jump. So one long landing only affects the next approach, not the whole course.
     
    04-03-2011, 11:08 PM
  #34
Banned
I guess it is just to do with what you are used to doing, I can see strides, but I look down for my posting diagonal.

If you are having trouble placing your strides, I would suggest getting off the horse and pacing it out while schooling, and leaving markers at the strides. This will help you get used to where you think they are, and you can adjust as needed.
     
    08-06-2011, 04:26 PM
  #35
Foal
Thanks, everyone, that was very helpful. I ride hunters and am just relearning to jump. It's helpful to know there are plenty of people that just feel for a steady pace and do alright. It was also good for me to know that a long spot of the first jump of a line WILL impac teh line. Umm, hadn't consciously realized that one yet!

This is such a great sport, such a great equalizer, I love it!
     
    08-10-2011, 03:45 PM
  #36
Foal
I usually am on at about 5 strides out. Now im not saying that I SEE the spot from 5 strides out, I see the spot much earlier than that, but I have an adjustment time where I rate my horse and that adjustment times ends when im from 3 to 5 strides out. What I mean by that is I see where im going to take off from way back, I have that time to fix if I think well chip in or be long, but I STOP my adjusting usually 5 strides from the fence, if its tight then I stop within 3 strides of the fence so that we can focus on the jump and I don't throw my horse off too much. So when im 5 strides out I know exactly where im going to take off, I've planned for it, and I don't try to change it from there. If I judged wrong then my horse saves my butt and we ride it the best we can :) but after 11yrs of jumping its usually pretty good. Since your starting, what I suggest is to set up exact lines, know what theyre set at and count your strides between. That way you get a feel for it. Then advance to jumping a single fence and try to count from 3 strides out. 3-2-1-jump. Say it out loud to help. Once that goes well move on to counting from 5 strides out etc. Then follow what Strange said about adjusting the stride in between. Id wait to do this until you can count out properly set strides. But move on to making a 4 stride a 3 or 5 or 6 stride and counting and feeling the pace. Itll really help! But my rule of thumb is that once your within 5 strides (occasionally 3, depends on the turn and jump etc )of the fence you don't change your ride. I go more on feel like some others have said, but not mistake that for not finding a stride ahead of time! I may not literally COUNT strides, but in order to have a good feel and know where your going to be comes from counting to figure out the stride of your horse and where it puts you. Once youve gone through that training then you will be able to feel the pace of your horse and know what amount of ground your going to cover. They go hand in hand. Another thing to practice is riding along a straight arena and counting strides down the line without jumps at all, then set up random poles and just try riding to them and finding an even rhythm as far back as possible.
     
    08-14-2011, 02:08 AM
  #37
Trained
I sometimes count, if I'm concentrating on getting the striding right. Monty's pretty good at setting it up himself though so I rarely have to do anything to his canter. At the moment my confidence isn't really up to scratch so I just have to keep saying to myself to let him go forward, or it's an awkward jump because of lack of impulsion because I was holding him too much.

When I'm riding quite often I'll be reminding myself of things that my coach tells me - "ride him forward" being the most common, and "stay off those reins" being the next most. We're working on getting it into my head that I can stop him off seat alone. I know I can, and I do it regularly, it's when he's getting a little over-forward that I have trouble. And I know it's me because he only gets over-forward when I'm nervous.
     
    08-29-2011, 03:15 PM
  #38
Weanling
     
    08-29-2011, 03:32 PM
  #39
Foal
I've jumping 15 years and have had my current horse 6 years, I can judge my striding from about 15/20 strides out, It all comes with practice and now I don't even think about it, it just happens
     

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