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post #1 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation i need tips to perfect my two point position!!!

A while back i had an accedent while riding, i was riding, my horse tripped, we both went down and he rolled over me... i know it has nothing to do with my two point buutt i just can't get into the proper position. so what should i do? should i go back to the basics and go through learning again? if so where do i start???

please help! show season is coming and i have to get this down!! any tips would be great!!!

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post #2 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 02:26 PM
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Do you have any pictures of you doing the two-point now? It will likely make it easier to tell where you are having the problems.

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um i cant figure out how to!!!
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post #4 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 03:34 PM
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post #5 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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ok thank you! i have a couple but i dont really know if they're good, they were taken back in October and we were just doing small jumps and such.
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post #6 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 03:53 PM
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So from what I can see is that your heels are up, your hunched over, and your hands are in your crotch. Try to stretch your heels down, bring your upper body up, lift your hands, and even maybe push them forward.
When you are just riding try getting the correct position at the walk; heels down, hands up and forward and not touching the horse, and upper body a little further back. Then once you've got the hang of it, try it in the trot.

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post #7 of 16 Old 12-18-2010, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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oh thank you it makes a lot of sence i think what im doing is just because im so scared im going to fall again!! i totally lost it and i guess i just devoloped bad habbits!!!

thank you again!!! it makes a lot of sence now!
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post #8 of 16 Old 12-19-2010, 09:34 PM
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I applaud you for wanting to improve your position! Here's something to consider: What you think will happen will happen. If you think you're going to fall of, you will. Self fulfilling prophecy.

What keeps you secure in the air? A correct position. What makes you unstable? The wrong position. Riding defensively like you are actually makes you less secure and more vulnerable to a fall.

Looking at your position, my hunch is that you actually have a very strong leg with quite a bit of potential. But your defensiveness is actually what makes it weak. First of all, trust your leg! I think it's quite capable if you let it! In every single position your lower leg is right there under you. There is a vertical line from your hip down to your heel, that's more then a LOT of people can say. But you absolutely must relax your ankle and let your heel drop down. Your ankle is what absorbs shock and if you stiffen it so much where you're standing on your toe another part of your body is going to take the shock throwing you out of the tack. Before you can really get your ankle to do its job properly is to make sure your stirrup is across the ball of your foot with it angled out so the outside branch (by your pinky) is closer to the front of your foot. That allows your heel to drop down, but also allows your foot to flex out so you have more weight on the big toe part of your foot. This is the most flexible and shock absorbing position you can be in.

Let your weight sink into your heels, but also practice a good release. I just took a clinic where the instructor really stressed that you CANNOT be balanced if your hands are behind your shoulders. Let your hands come forward and in a beginning crest release 50% of your weight will be on your hands with 50% in your legs. It will save your horse's mouth and let you figure out what to do with your upper body until you're strong enough to support yourself in the air with just your balance and leg. As you get stronger and more confidence you can put more and more weight into your leg and less on your hands.

Let your hips relax so your horse can jump up to you. Your horse jumping up will close your hip angle and allow you to be balanced over the jump.

Like I said, I think you have quite a bit of potential in there! Coming back after an accident is really difficult, but doable! You can do it! Trust your body and I think you will be just fine!
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Only practice can build up the necessary muscle memory to hold the proper position, but I was given a great exercise for finding the right position in the first place. With you're horse standing still, stand straight up in the stirrups. Find your balance over your feet where you need nothing to hold you up. Then while keeping your legs in the exact same position from the knee down, almost sit back down in the saddle. When you get 2 inches from sitting in the saddle, stop and hold the position. That's a balanced 2 point position. Once you've found it, just take it out for a spin. Trot and canter all over the place occasionally stopping to stand up again to make sure you're still in the proper spot. It really works well, especially if you have nobody on the ground to point out a lower leg slippage problem. Good luck.

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post #10 of 16 Old 12-26-2010, 01:09 PM
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Here's a little diagram to help see what some are talking about for your position and what it should be more like.
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