Im unstuck!!

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  • My horse has so much scope i cant sit to his jump
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    11-14-2010, 05:10 AM
Im unstuck!!

Well I can jump and have jumped before. But my new horse has a weird style! I cannot sit it for the life of me! He has so much scope its not funny and he rounds alot and it just feels down right wierd! I have to bring him right back and 4 beat to actually not fall off Does anyone have any tips to stay glued? Or do I just have to hang on for dear life?

Oh and my new horse Karlos, is a 16.1hh 11yr old OTTB, and knows how to jump. He has jumped 1mtr 40 (not me riding) & World Cup showjumpers really like him, but I just don't know how to bring out his potential!

Any help??
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    11-14-2010, 05:29 AM
Well when I jump high, I really have to have my stirrups short. Do you jump in a dressage saddle? Ouch, I hate them to jump in! I will help a littl more later
    11-14-2010, 05:31 AM
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Practice. Jump the height you can sit the easiest, and when you can practically do it in your sleep go higher. Its dangerous jumping high jumps if you don't have your balance - you can unbalance the horse. You can get used to anything with time.
    11-16-2010, 08:07 AM
The only thing I have found to help strength in jumping position is to practice lots of 2pt at trot and canter and ride lots of posting trot with no stirrups.
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    11-16-2010, 09:18 PM
Do you mean he cracks his back over the jump? I was just about to post a question about the same subject. As I'm finally jumping real fences, I'm finding my horse has a serious bascule over jumps. I agree, it's very jarring. I notice it feels like there's almost a second beat or movement in the air which is what gets me off balance. Maybe it's just an issue of timing that second beat. I'll be interested to see if anyone has any tips.
    11-26-2010, 01:05 PM
I agree with Saskia's post about going back to small fences.
I'd also recommend lots and lots of work without stirrups to adjust you to his movement, and improve your balance. Gymnastic exercises might also help some. He clearly has the ability, so it's not necessary to do much jumping until you're completely comfortable with his gait and style of movement. :)
I love horses that 'pop' their whither over fences. Got more than a couple bruises on my chest, back in the days when I was still brave enough to go over a fence :)
    11-26-2010, 03:34 PM
I used to ride a TB gelding named Dodger who had alot of "scope" over a fence, and I had a hard time learning to "stick" with him over the fence. It wasn't until I was riding in a clinic with him, when I was shown how to find his "Sweet Spot"

Working on a Functional Two Point, allowing your seat to just hover over the saddle, allowing your weight to disburse into your heels and keeping your lower leg around your horse - remember - you are around your horse, not ontop of your horse - and keeping yourself over your toes, you'll beable to "stick" with our horse.

I find horses like this, that you do not want to sit on their backs. Remain functional by asking his back to come up to you every upstride with your legs, keep your seat out of your tack *slightly hovering over* while keeping yourself over your toes and balanced. Keeping your joints loose and moving like an accordian fold - so the shock can absorb into your ankles and knee's - and you can keep yourself just over his center of gravity .

It takes time to figure it out - it took me a while to find Dodgers "Sweet Spot" but when I did, it was wonderful :) To find where you need to be, over the horse, makes things much simpler :)
As Ian Millar says "A good rider conforms to their horse, a poor rider makes their horse conform to them" so - figure out what you can do with your position, to accomodate his "round jump" so that you can stay out of his way, while remaining functional.
    12-23-2010, 04:11 AM
Thank you so much! Its very helpful! I
And actually easy to understand. After Christmas im getting lessons which is going to help heaps. And the coach is very good he focuses on position rather than just jumping you. And I got new saddles for Christmas so they should help.
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