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        03-11-2014, 04:10 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Off topic, but are you bareback in the first picture? If so, you have a much more stable jumping position when you are bareback! This likely means your stirrups are far too short on your saddle, or you are otherwise overusing your stirrups. Just what I see, take it or leave it.
         
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        03-11-2014, 07:31 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xJumperx    
    Off topic, but are you bareback in the first picture? If so, you have a much more stable jumping position when you are bareback! This likely means your stirrups are far too short on your saddle, or you are otherwise overusing your stirrups. Just what I see, take it or leave it.
    Agreed, I was thinking exactly the same thing! (I'm having somewhat the same issue of overusing my stirrups and know I have a much better leg without stirrups.)
         
        03-11-2014, 07:36 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Are those old paint cans I see ? One answer.. Yes. Find some thing else to make a jump
         
        03-16-2014, 07:35 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    First of all, I'm CERTAINLY no jumping expert. At all.

    Secondly, whoever said you need your horse taken away is a complete dunce. I agree with a poster above. The horse looks very well taken care of!

    But I did want to add that, when I was little, a plastic lawn chair split open on me and tore my leg up quite badly. I still have the scar and 15+ years later remember it well. Was very painful. If something went wrong and you or your horse were to cause the plastic to tear or split, it can become KNIFE sharp.
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        03-16-2014, 07:52 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    I wouldn't say you "deserve to have your horse taken away"...that's a little extreme.

    Having said that, lawn chairs wouldn't be my first choice in jumps but hey...we've all done it a time or two. Be aware of the danger.
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        03-16-2014, 10:18 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    I've done the same thing before with lawn chairs and pvc poles. I always made sure that I had the poles on the arms so if my horse was to hit them, they would just roll off.

    But, I would much rather use hay/straw bales, cinder blocks with poles on top, etc to plastic chairs.

    Or even better, jump standards :)
         
        03-16-2014, 11:08 PM
      #17
    Super Moderator
    Here are some things about that jump.

    As has been said, when poles are hit, they need to be able to drop right to the ground and lay there. This can't happen with this jump, so there is a good chance a horse can get tangled in this jump.

    Plastic, like the chairs and some thinner PVC pipes will break, easily, if they are hit. When the do get hit and break, they will break into razor sharp slicing pieces. I saw a horse cut an artery in their leg when they were sliced by a broken PVC pipe. Those chairs would break this way.


    Thin lightweight poles can break into a stabbing spear. They also do nothing to teach a horse to respect a pole and to try not to hit one. I like HEAVY wooden poles. If you must use PVC, you need to use very HEAVY large pipes, so it will be harder to break. And, they must be stored out of the sun to keep them from oxidizing and becoming brittle.


    Have I jumped very questionable jumps that were ill advised as a kid? You bet. I have been very lucky not to have been hurt or hurt my horses..
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        03-17-2014, 07:47 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Yes it is dangerous, but im not going to rant because you have read many already!
    But let me correct some people, Jump poles do NOT have to fall when the horse knocks them, Xcountry jumps don't. Yes people and horses get hurt on them, but they also get hurt on poles that do fall, I would suggest using barrels, hay bales, or logs to jump (you can stand short logs on there side and set a pole on top) though.
         
        03-17-2014, 09:15 PM
      #19
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kaleighlg    
    Yes it is dangerous, but im not going to rant because you have read many already!
    But let me correct some people, Jump poles do NOT have to fall when the horse knocks them, Xcountry jumps don't. Yes people and horses get hurt on them, but they also get hurt on poles that do fall, I would suggest using barrels, hay bales, or logs to jump (you can stand short logs on there side and set a pole on top) though.

    Cross country jumps cannot be compared to this jump. XC jumps do not role around at the slightest touch, running the risk of such an easy entanglement. And the jumps are going to use such solid elements that the horse can see and get an idea of what is there and respect it. This jump is hard to judge, will move around and stay up way too easily and there is nothing there to encourage the horse to respect and jump carefully.

    That said, anyone who has jumped has jumped things that were not advisable. The OP posted here, after getting roasted, to see if there was a valid reason for people's concern. I think there was a reason to be concerned, but certainly no reason to have roasted her. I will admit to having jumped far dumber jumps in my day.....
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        03-19-2014, 07:33 AM
      #20
    Banned
    Well, it does seem prety dangerous, if you can't buy jumps, you can use what ever you want as long as the pole can fall easilly
         

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