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    03-23-2010, 12:44 PM
***PS: he was 3/4 TB, 1/4 Shetland, 1/4 Arab.
I'm bad at math, but your fractions do NOT add up. Do you mean 1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, and 1/4 Shetland?
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    03-23-2010, 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by PaintsPwn    
I'm bad at math, but your fractions do NOT add up. Do you mean 1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, and 1/4 Shetland?
ahahah that is what I thought!!!
    03-23-2010, 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by upnover    
Actually he started his career with his breeder as a hunter and eventually moved to the jumpers. I heard he ended up at the o'connor's because he was too difficult for his breeder to ride and everyone was surprised to see how successful he was with eventing.

I agree with CJ. Why does everyone know who Teddy is? B/C there aren't many ponies out there who are capable of jumping what the big guys can do. Regardless of "lack of breeders" or "people don't give them a chance". Believe me, if ponies had just as much of a chance you'd see more of them out there.

***PS: he was 3/4 TB, 1/4 Shetland, 1/4 Arab.
his breeder had been trying specifically to breed an upper level pony for 5-10 years or something like that. He was no accident no matter if he started in hunters [all eventers should imo]
    03-23-2010, 10:10 PM
Green Broke
^ it's true. The breeder P.Wynn Norman, will tell anyone that he was NOT an accident. His brother, Kevlar, is now standing stud and producing babies much like Teddy.
    03-23-2010, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PaintsPwn    
I'm bad at math, but your fractions do NOT add up. Do you mean 1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, and 1/4 Shetland?

LOL, um, YES. Thank you PaintsPwn, that's exactly what I meant!
    03-23-2010, 11:32 PM
Iz miss teddy :(
    03-24-2010, 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
not really, he was bred specifically to do upper level eventing. There arent that many upper level pony eventers because there arent that many breeders who breed upper level ponies. He was also 1/2 tb, its not like he was a welsh pony or something
my point is that in common standards, you won't see a pony doing the higher levels because not as many of them exist. If you think teddy o'connor was the rule, and not the exception, that's the equivalent of saying he wasn't exceptional which my most standards, he most certainly was!
    03-24-2010, 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by eventerdrew    
^ it's true. The breeder P.Wynn Norman, will tell anyone that he was NOT an accident. His brother, Kevlar, is now standing stud and producing babies much like Teddy.

Indeed, as secretariat too stood at stud for many many years producing babies much like himself. Doesn't mean that there will ever be another horse to the caliber of either secretariat OR teddy o'connor. And THAT is what makes them exceptional. EVEN with teddy's part siblings, that's still a VERY VERY small percentage of horses that are 14.2h or less that can compete at the highest levels, and that was the point of this thread.

What height horse (not breed, or bloodlines, just a generalization) do you prefer for jumpers? I find that most of the best athletic show jumpers are b/t 15.2 - 16.2 and while there are certainly exceptions on either end of the scale, the best of the best *usually* fit in that range.

Oh and I know teddy's breeders -- amazing people who have donated to our rescue :)
    03-24-2010, 07:50 PM
I feel like I know Teddy a whole lot now ;) I didn't even know he was bred with that intent, I thought he was a total fluke.

I appreciate the comments.
    03-24-2010, 08:34 PM
I have a 15hh high ASH x QH and he is notorious for 1.3m jumping fences. Real ones. Made with wire. That said, it would be nice if he was actually rideable. *sigh* maybe one day.

CJ82Sky: There are exceptions to the rule, but they are far more common than you might think!
Size of a jumper is not only about personal preference, but about the temperament of both the rider and the horse, and about the horse's spirit. You're restricting height of the horse to the height of the jumps that YOU jump. Of course people would prefer a 16.2h horse if they want to jump the highest level. But many people do not jump the highest level, and this about what size is comfortable for the rider and why they have chosen this size. For example, my horse is 15.2h. I chose her because she is both maneuverable and scopy, she has a beautiful temperament, and she can go all day jumping only 2'5". It's about what you chose your size for.

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