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post #1 of 11 Old 03-04-2012, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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Jumper show courses?

I'm pretty new to jumper shows (I've done hunters all my life) but since I'm starting up eventing I think I need to learn a little more about them... Can someone explain the difference between Optimum Time First Round, Power & Speed, and Fault & Out classes? Thanks!

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if youre starting eventing why do you need to learn more about jumpers ? im confused !

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if youre starting eventing why do you need to learn more about jumpers ? im confused !
Probably because the three day event (aka eventing) is composed of dressage on the first day, cross country jumping on the second day, and stadium jumping on the third day.
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Probably because the three day event (aka eventing) is composed of dressage on the first day, cross country jumping on the second day, and stadium jumping on the third day.
as someone who does both jumpers and eventing, stadium and show jumping are NOT the same.

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heres some basic stadium jumping rules for eventing if this helps:
if you dont want to get penalty pts dont: exceed the time allowed, have rails or refusals, cross your path (ie dont circle in the middle of the course)

there arent different classes so to speak for stadium its all ways pretty much the same and its not about who is the fastest, you wont be ranked by the speed you completed the course in but you can get penalties for exceeding the time allowed.
i hope this is helpful...
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Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm planning on doing a few jumper shows this year to practice for my stadium courses since they run similarly. There aren't many places that run events near by, but fortunately there's a few barns that run jumper shows. Sorry for the confusion, I know jumpers and stadium run differently, I'm just asking about jumpers.
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ah i see.
well power and speed is one of the more common ones you will see. heres how it works (roughly). the first part of the course is the "power" half and rides pretty much like a stadium course. if you have no jumping or time faults once youve made it through the power half of the course you can continue with the rest of the course (dont stop or circle just continue riding as if its the same course) and thats when the speed portion begins, it rides like a jump-off type course.
another common one rides like a stadium course and then has a seperate jump off. sometimes they have everyone go and then whoever went clean does jump off, sometimes they let you stay in and just do the jump off while youre already in the ring, just depends on the show and how theyre running it.
one suggestion i have is definitely have a trainer! it is worth the money to have someone there who knows whats going on and is a pro at those shows!
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Thanks! That makes sense.
I had been riding with an eventing trainer who I absolutely loved for about a year, but long story short I need I take hunter lessons now and can't afford lessons with both. So unfortunately I can't get much professional help with my eventing.
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Ahh.. you're crossing over to "the dark side"... ;) Most likely the course sheet (or prizelist) will clarify the classes into "tables" (the official classification for the rules).

Table II, Section 2(b)- "timed first jump off". Your basic jumper course. You do your round. If you have a fault you're excused. If you're clear you wait for the buzzer (you can stop, just can't leave) and then you have 45 sec to cross the timer to your first jump of the jump off.

Table II, Section 2(c) "power and speed". Somewhere in your course is a designated finish line. You begin your course (power phase) and if you are clear you -without stopping- begin the speed phase. So it's like one giant course but you start off more carefully and somewhere in the middle you should pick up the pace a bit. If you are not clear in your power phase they buzz you out and you leave the ring without doing the speed phase.

Table II, Section 2(a) -aka 'timed first round'. All you do is your first round, and there is no jump off unless there is a tie for first.

Table V, Section 1- "Optimum Time"- You are given a certain time the course should be completed in. You get faults if you are over the time allowed (along with knock downs). I feel like you can get faults for doing it too quickly too... it's been so long since I"ve done an Optimum Time round!

Hope that helps! Good luck!
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oh ok ! that makes a lot more sense OP !

great post upnover

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