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post #21 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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I'm sure some barns do use it to maximize lesson revenue... I don't necessarily blame them because they are a BUSINESS trying to make money. :o) Although, I don't do this because my barn isn't a "show" barn and I allow insured outside instructors as well. I tell them that if one of these other instructors (that are experienced) says you can jump this horse horse with out supervision then I'll certainly take that into consideration.

A lot of barns DO blame it on insurance and not necessarily because the insurance company suggests such rules but because we are protecting our business. A lot of barns are sole proprietorship's which means to get sued would make pretty much everything subject to loss. When you've worked your tail off and spent every last dime on your barn and business you don't want to just give it away over a know it all boarder who 'thinks' they can jump 5ft. Even with insurance... if you get a claim or two, that sky rockets your rates or maybe even makes you un-insurable!

Why is it considered favoritism? You can either jump or you can't.

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post #22 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
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No, I don't require permission every time you jump.. I just want to know the rider and horse combo are capable of doing so.

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post #23 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:24 PM
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Why is it considered favoritism? You can either jump or you can't.
If you would answer my question as to whether you are a professional jumps trainer or not I would better be able to answer your question about favouritism.

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post #24 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:27 PM
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Why is it considered favoritism? You can either jump or you can't.
Like franks said, this is a very subjective thing. Some people watch me jump and are very impressed. Others tell me I'm a jump away from death. You're very familiar with the horse world. How many times have you heard someone say, "she can't ride for --it"? I'm guessing a lot. Point is again, it's just too subjective, and I am at a complete loss at why you need a rule to force people to use common sense? You must get some real gems at your barn. I've been at my current barn for almost a year now, and I have yet to see anyone riding outside their ability level. We're talking 30+ riders. I was assuming it was the norm rather than the exception, but if people actually have rules about this stuff, guess it's not the case.

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post #25 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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Yes I give hunter/jumper lessons but dressage is more my passion.

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post #26 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:42 PM
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I totally agree. Of course, this is coming from someone who's never boarded, but it seems like it does a good job of maintaining a few things:

a.) Making sure horse and rider pairs don't do anything dangerous
b.) It doesn't create all the legal hassle if someone got hurt and tried to sue the barn for unsafe jumps or something. They could lay out the facts that the contracts upon boarding there stated not jumping without supervision, and be done with it.
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I am at a complete loss at why you need a rule to force people to use common sense? You must get some real gems at your barn.
I actually laughed out loud at this one. Apparently you havn't seen my other posts... ;o) I am one of the newer facilities in my area and also lower priced there for I get a lot of first time horse owners and "Gems" as you call them. I am an experienced rider but an inexperienced barn owner. I come from a training background where there wasn't a lot of contact with the owners.

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post #28 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:43 PM
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I think most barns have rules for horse torture or beating too... that last one would fall under this category.
Huh?

I have never heard of such a rule.

It sounds as though you are upset with *a* current boarder. If you don't get along, ask them to leave. You don't need a reason, simply that the situation is not working for everyone involved.
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post #29 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:46 PM
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I actually laughed out loud at this one. Apparently you havn't seen my other posts... ;o) I am one of the newer facilities in my area and also lower priced there for I get a lot of first time horse owners and "Gems" as you call them. I am an experienced rider but an inexperienced barn owner. I come from a training background where there wasn't a lot of contact with the owners.
Ahhh. New to the BO rule. Might as well give birth to 20 kids all at the same time! Just drink a lot for the first year or so to dull the pain. Gems have a way of weeding themselves out and moving onto backyard barn situations, leaving behind the boarders you wanted in the first place.

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post #30 of 84 Old 01-10-2011, 03:51 PM
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Yes I give hunter/jumper lessons but dressage is more my passion.
Well then, seems to me that as a professional jumps trainer you should be able to make accurate judgements about horse/rider combinations. Additionally it is your facility so of course you get to make rules where you see fit, especially where safety is concerned. The difficulty lies in how to make such rules in an unbiased manner.

Additionally, as others have mentioned, some will not appreciate being held to your judgement and you may lose some clients over that issue - are you prepared for that? I know if my barn introduced such a rule I would be assessing my options.

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