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post #11 of 22 Old 02-07-2013, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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That sounds like something that we could definatley try. The thing with her is: when she gets bored she stops trying. She will go from a nice collected trot with suspension to an unimpressive trot with her head flinging everywhere and no collection. It's annoying, but I just have to work with it...

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post #12 of 22 Old 02-07-2013, 08:30 PM
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She's 4. She's only required to color between the lines. It doesn't have to look pretty.

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post #13 of 22 Old 02-08-2013, 08:49 AM
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i agree with that ^^
if she does it well after a 4 or 5 tries i would just move on ! or be done =]

i have a feeling our mares are very similar. it really helps my mare if i am very clear. she would rather me use a little more force and then back way off than for me to be gentle and repetitive with my aids. just something to keep in mind =]

i also hate lunging over jumps, i feel it serves no purpose. jumping with a rider is so different for them than jumping with out a rider. absolutely useless imo.
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We think alike Gypsygirl- and apparently we have similar mares too :) I'm still trying to find that line with my aids where I can be forcefull enough to get the canter to shorten, but not have her trot yet. But I can tell you that gentle and repetitive aids are ignored. She doesn't like the constant reminders either. She's a quirky mare. Anything too light will get a tail swish, ear flick or twitchy skin (but is ignored) and anythink too hard will get a head toss, kick, or -if I'm lucky- a leap.

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haha i totally understand ! my mare really keeps me in line. my trainer says she keeps me honest because she refuses to cover up my mistakes.

a couple times ive put my leg on too hard when asking for a lead change and shes kicked out way over her head =D
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Problems on the ground like rushing when you lunge do NOT get better by riding. You are giving up too soon. Lunge her daily until she settles into it and relaxes.

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I have had bad experiences while lunging. My gelding's stifle locked and he fell because it is very hard on their joints. Most horses I have lunged do better if not contained in such a small circle for the amount of time it takes to lunge. If I lunged my mare, it would take a long time to settle her down and I'm not willing to risk her joints more than they already have been damaged by racing. If I have to lunge a horse, I free lunge them in the arena.

I understand that sometimes the vet needs to see movement on the lunge line, but at my barn they have a small outdoor which produces the same effect as lunging. I have also had the vet evaluate the horses movement while I was riding. This works just the same as lunging.

I don't mean to come across as rude, but I won't be lunging my horses. Thanks for the response :)
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Problems on the ground like rushing when you lunge do NOT get better by riding. You are giving up too soon. Lunge her daily until she settles into it and relaxes.
no one said that.

i said that problems jumping undersaddle do not get fixed by lunging.
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This is pretty much exactly what my Sunny and I have struggled, and STILL struggle with sometimes! What I found that helped a lot, was a ton of flatwork that incorporated poles and small jumps. Going over poles should be a non issue, you should be able to flat over them like they aren't even there. Then start to do it with the tiniest crossrail, and slowly make it larger as she gets better. And do some of this in every ride, and she'll eventually realize it's not a big deal, the jumps don't have to be big, it's not like you're jumping her hard every ride, just cantering over small obstacles. You can make a whole little jump "course" with poles on the ground, that's great practice as well without actually jumping height.

I would only jump my Sunny every once in awhile because she would get so wound up, and she knows her job, but I didn't think that I needed to jump her very often. WRONG!! It's only when we started doing a lot of jumping, and not big stuff either, that she got better. When you only jump once in awhile, it's like a party, the horse likes it and gets so excited and wound up and you can't get anything accomplished. Once you start doing a bit of it all the time, the novelty wears off and then they settle down, go to work and you can actually make some progress.

I love the jumps on a circle exercise, for me it's just thinking about lots of inside rein and outside leg, and lots of bend to keep Sunny soft and paying attention to what we're doing. And I keep a feel on her mouth over the jump, and nice following hand and a slightly open rein to keep her going around on the circle, I don't give a big loopy release because horses like consistency, a more erratic horse, (like our Sunny's!) need that soft quiet consistent feel for them to become quieter. They'd rather you have a nice soft following hand all the time rather than throwing the contact away and then having to snatch it all back up on the landing. If Sunny's fighting or rushing or being a **** I don't let her jump like that, I circle her away, reestablish everything and then come again. She doesn't get to just be a crazy horse anymore, it was a huge production at first and you bet she fought and bolted and bucked and protested, but now that I've been insisting that we're going to do things quietly and am super consistent in my body and my contact, she has gotten TONS better over the course of just a few rides. You just have to be super consistent! And your Sunny is super young still, so you have lots of time to improve and get it right:)

Putting poles in the middle of the arena and doing serpentines over them is also really good to work on corners, bending and balance. The book 101 Jumping Exercises for Horse and Rider is excellent for getting ideas as well, basically any sort of grid can be done just with poles on the ground, the sky is the limit there, haha.

I hope this stuff helps:) I didn't know you had a blog! I'm going to check it out when I get home, it's blocked at work here, haha.
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I am sorry that I responded. Sunny sounds like she doesn't listen well and the jumping is blowing off steam. Not my cup of tea for a jumping partner. =/ Personally, if your horse cannot manage tight lunging circles how does she have the strength to carry you over jumps?
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