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        11-22-2010, 09:33 PM
    Green Broke
    Actually that's a great observation and one my trainer makes a lot! ;)

    We do need to practice that more...she just is used to a little longer right now so when I shorten up she pulls on me and usually unseats me lol
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        11-22-2010, 09:35 PM
    Unseats you? Ha, you just gave a big clue. If she can unseat you, you either aren't using or don't have a strong core. Mine's jelly. That's how I know!! Ever read the 2nd Centered Riding book? I think it would shine a lot on your current position issue.
        11-22-2010, 09:54 PM
    I don't see so much that you are sitting down to early after the fence - just that you aren't riding effectively by absorbing the shock through your joints and end up whacking the horse in the back.
    A rider with positive tension in her body will move her joints to absorb shock so that relative to the horse, her body does not move. What you are doing over the fences is keeping your body still relative to itself - which is causing you to get jostled around and you end up coming down onto the horse's back by force of gravity. This is shown in the video that you posted (shock absorbing joints).

    You have a great deal of strength in your body, holding you with negative tension. Riding is about finesse, not force. What you need to do is a lot more flat work, and stand in your stirrups to learn to absorb shock with your ankles, knees and hips.

    Good luck!
        11-23-2010, 12:31 PM
    Green Broke
    Anebel I think you hit the nail on the head...my trainer is ALWAYS telling me not to be so tense (we do 99% flat work, 1% jump work!) and she always has me up in 2 pt. Learning to walk, trot, and canter and absorb the shock.

    It seems like my arms and shoulders stiffen up a LOT...I know I need to work on loosening up, but for some reason even when I try, I still find myself "stuck" in a certain position...any tips??
        11-23-2010, 12:33 PM
    1) Grab mane.

    2) Land in your heels and legs. I've had the EXACT same problem for so long and when I went to interview for my working student position all my trainer had to say was "Land in your heels, not on your seat"! You might have to remind yourself, but it really helped keep me from coming up/back too early and when I did I wasn't coming down onto the horse's back or hitting him in the mouth. I can say I was really sore the next day though.
        11-24-2010, 03:28 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    I think I see something that might help. You jump with rather long reins. Instead of keep them in your lap, maybe shorten them to keep your arms more forward. It may sound backwards, but if you keep your arms forward, it allows you to concentrate on keeping your upper body back and over your hips. With your hands already forward, the mere act of your hips folding over the jumps sends your arms forward to provide an ample release. On the other side of the fence, just unfold and reset your position. Who knows. It might help.
    ^^This. Actually quite effective as it makes you stay forward.

    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    I don't see so much that you are sitting down to early after the fence - just that you aren't riding effectively by absorbing the shock through your joints and end up whacking the horse in the back.
    ^^This as well. After watching the video and only watching the jumping part about 20 times....it didnt quite look like you were sitting back, but it didnt look like you were staying forward either.

    The girl who rides the bay horse in the video, who you would like to emulate...I actually thought she was sitting back in the saddle early.

    Watch this video ^^ and see how he is pretty much straight legged over the jump? He isnt shock absorbing. Its even worse when you see it in person. You can hear people going "oh" when he lands really hard.
        11-24-2010, 06:34 PM
    There is a moment over the fence where your position is quite good. One problem is that your knee is tight, which causes your heel to come up. Think of softening your knee, but keeping it bent, and allowing the weight down into your heels and your eyes up. Maybe your stirrups could go up a hole or two ... worth a try

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