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post #1 of 8 Old 08-19-2011, 12:11 AM Thread Starter
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Kind of odd question about horses trained to jump...

Okay, so there's this mustang at our barn whose name is Viento. He is owned by some people who live out-of-state and is ridden by our trainer about once or twice a week. He's not a BLM mustang (no tattoo or freeze-brand).

This horse is AMAZING! He is soooooo well-trained in the arena (the trail is a different story all together). He walks, trots, extended trots, canters, does flying lead changes, side-passes...and jumps. Boy, does he ever JUMP! If he sees the cross rails set up in the arena, he automatically wants to jump them. We were watching the trainer just playing with him the other day and she was jumping over a little 18" cross rail that I set up for them. He was seriously jumping it like it was a 3-footer! At one point, he actually cleared the top of the standards.

Today, however, he displayed an interesting behavior that we actually found kind of funny. The trainer had some trot poles set out from one of her lessons and decided to take Viento over them. She settled him into a nice (collected) trot and started over them. He did not trot over the poles. He JUMPED them! Not all of them, but he jumped the first two and then kind of bounced over the second two in quick succession. The trot poles were set with eight feet between each of them (the trainer was using my friend's 14hh arab mare for her lesson, so the poles couldn't be too far apart lol).

Has anyone heard of a horse trained to jump (and who loves jumping) doing this?
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post #2 of 8 Old 08-19-2011, 12:16 AM
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It sounds to me that he's not actually trained to jump and is just scrambling trying to figure out where to put his feet.

The behavior you're talking about (overjumping, scrambling over trot poles) is just what I have seen/felt from horses green to jumping in my experience.
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post #3 of 8 Old 08-19-2011, 12:28 AM Thread Starter
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Weird. The trainer said that his owners told her that he is trained to jump and told her that she could jump him any time she wanted. She just wasn't prepared for how big his jump was, especially considering he's maybe 15-15.1hh (my two-year-old is taller than he is, if not by much). Not trying to argue, just telling you what I was told.

If he isn't trained to jump, why do you think he's so eager to go over the jump in the arena when it's set up? (Not asking this as a snide honestly just curious as to why he'd be so eager to jump if he hasn't been trained for it). Do some horses have a natural "desire" (for lack of a better word) to jump? Again, I am just curious. No arguing or snidity (is that a word lol) intended.
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A lot of horses overjump for several reasons. The first is greenness; The second is exuberance; and the third is a bad distance to the jump. If they end up at close distance, they are likely to try to jump higher in order to overcompensate for the bad distance. Many horses jump over trot poles because they think they are jumps, not just things to be trotted over.
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this horse was not started with the basics of jumping from the sounds of it. We hav a pony at my barn and she does that too because my trainer just started her jumping little X's not over the poles or anything. so now if you get her into a moving trot or a canter over the poles she with 99% of the time jump them or the first couple poles. A TB that we trained to jump did that too because his old barn just started him jumping fences right away too so this horse needs to go back to the very basics. Walk over the poles first and then build up from there

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snidity (is that a word lol)
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Yes, it's likely the horse had never been asked to trot through poles and just thought it was some sort of jump, or at least hadn't trotted through poles in a very long time. Although I know of a school pony who does that almost every time he trots over poles, the first time through. Second time he just trots them.
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Yes, its very likely that he was never taught how to do trotting poles, They really don't make a difference to jumping and some horses just can't cope with them, just as some horses that are great at trotting poles make awful jumpers.
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