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    01-18-2010, 08:14 PM
  #11
Trained
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I, personally, would never, EVER use a martingale, no horse needs it, and no horse has to have one.

It is useless, and I would not plan on ever using one on my horse.
So all the olympic level jumpers have martingales on their horses for no reason, and the horses don't need them?

I agree that they are over used and often abused - But they can be a useful tool in the right situation.

If no horse needs one - How would you suggest I stop my arab from flipping hishead in high-adrenalin situations?
     
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    01-18-2010, 08:23 PM
  #12
Foal
My philosphy is the less equipment the better. When you have to start putting all sorts of **** (and I do mean ****) on your horse, things are just getting complicated and can often lead towards abuse of the tack. If your horse needs a lot of equipment, it is probably best to take a step back and start working on the ground and flat. I am not saying that people who use martingales are in the wrong. The right kind of equipment used the right way is good. But when you start putting on martingales, chains, and harsh bits, and draw reins, and flashes, and studded cavessons, etc. The list goes on and on. It's time to say enough is enough.

Not saying that your horse does, but that is my personal opinion about people (especially around my barn) who just buy tack because it is new or looks nice.

With that being said, I do have a martingale for my horse, but it isn't for him. It is actually for me. I use the martingale for some extra grip because of his HUGE ass jump, even over the tiny ones. But it is soooo lose that it doesn't even affect him. He doesn't even know that it is there. I wear it just so I don't get jumped out of the saddle.

Good luck with your decision. I hope that I helped

     
    01-18-2010, 08:46 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Wow. Those are some pretty strong feelings about martingales.

Like most tools, in certain instances they can be effective if used correctly along side proper training. All a properly fitted standing martingale does is not allow a horse to stick his nose up in the air and avoid the bit. It SHOULD NOT EVER "strap a horse's face down to his chest". If it affects your horse's jump over the little stuff, it's too short.

I generally try to keep my tack as simple as possible unless adding something really does make a difference. I usually don't use a standing martingale because I want them to learn to carry themselves properly and once they can do that they don't need one. Plus, they are strictly prohibited in any flat class at any USEF sanctioned show and it's a total pain to have to hop off before every flat class to undo the martingale. (plus, I'm just way too forgetful to have to remember whether or not that horse has a martingale on) HOWEVER, I just got a new horse in who throws his head straight up constantly to avoid any type of rein aid he doesn't feel like doing (no, not a physical pain, purely behavior issue). So I dug my martingale out. He can't avoid me anymore. He's finally learning to accept the bit and hopefully without a week or two I'll quit using it.

My opinion is, if you horse truly needs it, then use it. If not, why bother?
     
    01-19-2010, 11:37 PM
  #14
Trained
Ohsareee,

Your edcuation on Martingales is not only way off base, but from your train of thought about these gadgets, is proof that people like you, should not be using them - nor, should be "edcuating" others about them.

Uneducated teaching the uneducated.

I feel sorry for your horse.
     
    01-19-2010, 11:57 PM
  #15
Green Broke
A running martingale, from what I believe/understand and I would like to hear what MIE, or someone of their standered thinks of this, is used to stop a horse from getting its head so high, that the rider looses control. Many people will over tighten a running martingale though.

The standing martingale, has a more direct action then the running martingale and does not apply pressure to the bit, but via the noseband. The standing martingale is not suitable for jumping as a horse cannot stretch over the jump.
     
    01-20-2010, 10:55 AM
  #16
Weanling
I only use it for my safety in the past - Hero would get extra excited at the canter and toss his head up so high its close to smacking me in the face sometimes - now he doesnt even need it
     
    01-20-2010, 11:26 PM
  #17
Weanling
Use as little tack as possible. If your horse does not require a martingale, why use one?
     
    01-21-2010, 12:21 AM
  #18
Green Broke
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So all the olympic level jumpers have martingales on their horses for no reason, and the horses don't need them?

I agree that they are over used and often abused - But they can be a useful tool in the right situation.

If no horse needs one - How would you suggest I stop my arab from flipping hishead in high-adrenalin situations?
I completly agree, at first I had to use one on Chinga because he would "throw" his head above a level of control, know his learnt to listen and I don't need it any more.
     
    01-21-2010, 12:23 AM
  #19
Green Broke
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So all the olympic level jumpers have martingales on their horses for no reason, and the horses don't need them?

I agree that they are over used and often abused - But they can be a useful tool in the right situation.

If no horse needs one - How would you suggest I stop my arab from flipping hishead in high-adrenalin situations?
I completly agree, at first I had to use one on Chinga because he would "throw" his head above a level of control, know his learnt to listen and I don't need it any more.
     
    01-21-2010, 12:24 AM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by UnrealJumper    
use as little tack as possible. If your horse does not require a martingale, why use one?

Yes I know, I have already said that if I do not need one I do not want to use one.

Thank you everyone for you're responses.
     

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