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post #1 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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my horse likes to stop after every jump... HELP!

my horse is a good horse. he has good papers, a decent bloodline, and a steady and patient behavior, however; he is very very VERY sluggish when it comes to jumping. whenever we jump, it goes like this:

step 1- go on in steady gallop pace
step 2- approach the jump
step 3- jump
step 4- SLAM on the breaks, stop dead in tracks, and wont budge

he doesnt even gallop very well with me. we gallop a few meters, and then he stops, and no matter how I use the leg aids, or the crop, he wont stop stopping.
when he stops, I usually have to make him gallop all over again, then to have him stop.... AGAIN!!!

I am so desperate....

any advice???? I AM SO WORRIED

what if I can never compete in shows, because he stops. what if I am not good enough of a rider.

should I give up????
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post #2 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 12:03 AM
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Have you spanked his hiney with a crop after the jump? Slamming on the brakes is going to get you killed one day. You need to keep him moving forward.

I would get a good trainer on his back after checking for pain (always check for pain) and get that resistance out of his system. Maybe you go something over the jump like snag him in the mouth or resist with your seat or pen on him, etc. What happens if you just gallop around the arena?

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post #3 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 12:13 AM Thread Starter
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I have an excellent riding teacher, i know this because this horse DOESNT STOP with him, only with me darn it! and spanking his hind part used to work before, but now its like hes gotten used to it and wont move even with it!!!
IS it still hopeless???

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post #4 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 06:40 AM
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is he comfortable jumping ? has he been trained to jump ? does your saddle fit him ?

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Please check all of the above, and think about what is different when the trainer rides him. Same saddle? Bit? Pads? I would also pay very close attention to what YOU are doing over the fence. My guess is that you may well be catching him in the mouth.
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post #6 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 09:28 AM
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When you sit up from your two point after the jump, how hard are you sitting? What are your hands doing? Where is your weight in the saddle? If your slamming down onto his back after the jump, try half seat for a couple strides then sit around your corner. If your hands are popping up and back when you come out of your two point your probably catching him in the mouth. If you come out of your two point and end up leaning your weight to far back, you could be unknowingly encouraging this stop. Above all else, check your tack check your tack check your tack. Even a weird strap or kink can drive a horse bonkers. I'd also check his legs. An old injury or weak joint can cause him pain landing a fence that he may present to you knowing he can stop, but not to your trainer. Good luck :)
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post #7 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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okay, so ive checked.... no injuries, saddle fits fine, the bit is not hurting him... what do you guys mean by "catching him in the mouth." does that mean that I stop him at mid jump? my riding teacher says Im the one who's stopping him, but I dont get what im doing wrong. does this catching in the mouth thing really stop him??? if so, what can I do?
thanks to everyone for replying.I appreciate the constructive criticism, I really wanna compete with this horse someday :)
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post #8 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 08:47 PM
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grab some mane before you go into 2-point, this will keep you for hitting him in the mouth
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post #9 of 17 Old 05-13-2012, 08:48 PM
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When you jump, you give release with your hands. If you don't release, he gets a big pull in his mouth which some horses think means "stop"

That is what we are saying, and seems that is what you're doing via your instructor.
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Well, I'm going to guess that you are causing this. If your trainer doesn't have issues, and the saddle, bit etc isn't causing the problems.

But, this could be caused by your horse reading off of you. Example...You are not confident in the saddle, or confident going over jumps and your horse senses that. Since you said he is very patient, he very well could be sensing that you aren't sure and therefore it's making him unsure.

I wouldn't be whacking him with a crop or using spurs or being harsh with him at this point in time.

These are all issues that you need to talk with your trainer about. And if your trainer isn't helping you and answering the questions that you have, or getting you over this, it's time to find a new one and get someone who is actually going to help you.

I had a gelding that worked great for me. When we posted him for sale, we had a mom bring out her 6 year old daughter. The daughter didn't really understand what she was doing. My poor gelding was so patient and sweet with her. He was just standing there looking at me like "I know what she wants but she's not confident and ready" I hopped up with her and he instantly followed ever cue that she asked of him. I hopped off, and he still wasn't quite what the little girl was asking.

Next week, another mom brought out her 3 kids, one girl was about 7, and my gelding didn't have any issues with moving out with this girl. She was confident in the saddle and knew what she was asking of the horse.

Just food for thought...

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